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Eddie Redmayne

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RVN123 · 22/11/2021 10:58

He's come out as saying that he regrets taking the part of Lili Elbe in the Danish Girl, as he thinks it should have gone to a trans actor.

That's another issue, surely it's called 'acting' Eddie?

He has affirmed that TWAW and they 'just want to live their lives out peacefully and it's time to allow them to do so'.

So no-ones being harassed out of their jobs then Eddie? Children aren't being medicalised? Women aren't being told to shut up and be kind, and allow men into their safe and private spaces?

What makes a bloke like Eddie think he has any right to an opinion in something that does not affect him, just because he put on a dress and some lipstick for a role that he now regrets?

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HoardingSamphireSaurus · 22/11/2021 12:17

I am both supportive of trans rights, and the rights of women. We need to get to a point where we look beyond a very small number of areas where we need women only spaces and be more human and welcoming.

And where those 2 sets of rights come into conflict?

Could you list the 'very small number of areas' for me? I have a suspicion you haven't quite understood what the conflict of rights actually entails.

Double3xposure · 22/11/2021 12:14

Some people have argued that women and children should give up their rights to safety , privacy and dignity because they are in some way less than human and presumably less deserving of rights.

These people are wrong and their argument is my my view quite despicable. We have seen in history what happens when you argue that some people are sub human.

Rhannion · 22/11/2021 12:13

The film was incredibly misleading. The character he played died of an infection due to an attempted “ womb transplant “ which was brushed over. His far more talented wife died poor and forgotten.

RVN123 · 22/11/2021 12:08

""We need to get to a point where we look beyond a very small number of areas where we need women only spaces and be more human and welcoming.""

Why is it up to the women to encompass this? Why can't the male estate be more welcoming and allow TW into their spaces? Isn't this just the equivalent of 'be kind'?
And I don't agree that there are only a very small number of spaces that this affects.

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 22/11/2021 12:06

@MatildaThink

What about Planet of the Apes, surely they should have trained real monkeys and gorillas how to ride horses and use guns...

WHAT! You mean they weren't monkeys and gorillas? They looked so real, well not the two people in the horse costumes - they were rubbish.

Brainwave89 · 22/11/2021 11:54

Lot of quite harsh opinions here. I thought the film was very well acted. It is a legitimate view for Eddie to say that the role should have gone to a trans actor- as it was legitimate for Russell T Davies to argue that only gay people should be involved in his series Its a Sin. I personally do not agree, but I understand the sentiment as I do when able bodied people have played disabled roles. I am both supportive of trans rights, and the rights of women. We need to get to a point where we look beyond a very small number of areas where we need women only spaces and be more human and welcoming.

IntermittentParps · 22/11/2021 11:54

@Rightsraptor

Pay him no heed he's just scoring pathetically easy brownie points.

He knows very well that there are no trans actors of enough standing to 'open' a film. It would simply not have been made without a name in the lead & title part. Plus the other problems other posters have mentioned, like trans actors having to play their natal sex.

Have you given the money you made from the film to trans charities yet, Eddie?

Precisely this. Or, being more charitable, he means well and just hasn't thought through the implications of what he's saying/standing for.
rabbitwoman · 22/11/2021 11:54

As a even further aside, it does irritate the heck out of me that the Cheery character is being held up as a trans icon. Nowhere in the books does it say or even imply that Cheery considered herelf a male dwarf and then decided or realised she was female when she moved to AM. All she did was start wearng some things that were culturally worn by human females but considered inappropriate by the dwarf community.

..... Even more off to the side, I would not have minded the 2021 ideas so much if it hadn't turned out to be such a mangling of a fine piece of writing.....

And did you notice, it was ALWAYS cheery who saved the day? Hmmmm.....

ArabellaScott · 22/11/2021 11:51

@ittakes2

"What makes a bloke like Eddie think he has any right to an opinion in something that does not affect him..." Do you not see the irony of posting this on an internet forum where everyone with an opinion on things which don't affect them post responses?
Most of the posters on here are women.

Gender ideology affects us.

MatildaIThink · 22/11/2021 11:50

@TwoLeftSocksWithHoles

I always thought they should have used real monkeys at the start of the film '2001: A Space Odyssey' APparently they used actors dressed up to look like monkeys! What a bloom' swiz.
What about Planet of the Apes, surely they should have trained real monkeys and gorillas how to ride horses and use guns...
TheLeadbetterLife · 22/11/2021 11:47

That film was the first step on my path to Peak Trans. I had no awareness of the issues before I saw it, but the film annoyed me because I thought it was doing transwomen a disservice. It portrayed Lili Elbe as someone who immediately knew she was a woman because she put on some silk stockings, and I thought, that's a bit silly and sexist, what do stockings have to do with being a woman?

Now here we are.

MagpiePi · 22/11/2021 11:43

@rabbitwoman

Just as an aside, the trans woman actor in The Watch playing cheery did dress as a man for one scene. Shame it was an absolute mess of one of STP's masterpieces, but I liked cheery and the actor who played her.

BUT wouldn't this also mean that trans actors would not be allowed to play non trans parts? I bet it doesn't mean that....

As a even further aside, it does irritate the heck out of me that the Cheery character is being held up as a trans icon. Nowhere in the books does it say or even imply that Cheery considered herelf a male dwarf and then decided or realised she was female when she moved to AM. All she did was start wearng some things that were culturally worn by human females but considered inappropriate by the dwarf community.

And I thought that the actor in The Watch series was just a man doing some...acting

Double3xposure · 22/11/2021 11:39

@MissMinutes24

Rich, posh, white, Old Etonian man Eddie doesn't see a problem. I'm shocked.
😬😬😬😬😬
Ghostsintheshelf · 22/11/2021 11:39

At least we know he wasn't appropriating when he he took the part of hypocritical, sexist Angel Clare in Tess of the d'Urbervilles.

Rightsraptor · 22/11/2021 11:37

Pay him no heed he's just scoring pathetically easy brownie points.

He knows very well that there are no trans actors of enough standing to 'open' a film. It would simply not have been made without a name in the lead & title part. Plus the other problems other posters have mentioned, like trans actors having to play their natal sex.

Have you given the money you made from the film to trans charities yet, Eddie?

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 22/11/2021 11:36

Thank you! I have just stolen snippets of this for a facebook post that annoyed me! Smile

TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 22/11/2021 11:34

I always thought they should have used real monkeys at the start of the film '2001: A Space Odyssey'
APparently they used actors dressed up to look like monkeys! What a bloom' swiz.

Shedmistress · 22/11/2021 11:33

Has he not donated his fee [minus tax] to a trans charity yet? Surely that is the only way to make reparations.

ittakes2 · 22/11/2021 11:32

"What makes a bloke like Eddie think he has any right to an opinion in something that does not affect him..."
Do you not see the irony of posting this on an internet forum where everyone with an opinion on things which don't affect them post responses?

Sashimimimi · 22/11/2021 11:31

Does he also feel wrong for pretending to be French in Les Misérables, or someone with magic powers in Fantastic Beasts, pretending to have been born in 1809 in The Aeronauts, or an alien in the future in Jupiter Ascending? He certainly should not have pretended to be one of the worlds geniuses in The Theory of Everything.

Not to mention the way he appropriated and profited from the pain of WW1 soldiers when he did Birdsong 😔

fournonblondes · 22/11/2021 11:28

He lost me since he went against JK R.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 22/11/2021 11:26

I wonder if he would support Eton admitting people on the basis of gender rather than sex.

rabbitwoman · 22/11/2021 11:23

Just as an aside, the trans woman actor in The Watch playing cheery did dress as a man for one scene. Shame it was an absolute mess of one of STP's masterpieces, but I liked cheery and the actor who played her.

BUT wouldn't this also mean that trans actors would not be allowed to play non trans parts? I bet it doesn't mean that....

changenamepainagain · 22/11/2021 11:22

The article in the Metro (sorry can't link) also uses the phrase:
'Sex confirmation surger[y]' to describe the procedure that the real Lili underwent.
Sex confirmation?!

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/11/2021 11:19

As TWAW, surely the part should have gone to any woman. Failed fucking logic again.