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Eddie Redmayne

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RVN123 · 22/11/2021 10:58

He's come out as saying that he regrets taking the part of Lili Elbe in the Danish Girl, as he thinks it should have gone to a trans actor.

That's another issue, surely it's called 'acting' Eddie?

He has affirmed that TWAW and they 'just want to live their lives out peacefully and it's time to allow them to do so'.

So no-ones being harassed out of their jobs then Eddie? Children aren't being medicalised? Women aren't being told to shut up and be kind, and allow men into their safe and private spaces?

What makes a bloke like Eddie think he has any right to an opinion in something that does not affect him, just because he put on a dress and some lipstick for a role that he now regrets?

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HellonHeels · 22/11/2021 19:23

@SomepeopleareTERFSgetoverit

I am no longer interested in any penis-haver’s views on this topic. my rights are not Eddie’s to give away.
Agree
ChattyLion · 22/11/2021 19:22

It’s just embarrassing reading the careerist self interest and chucking women under the bus. Where’s your integrity Eddie?

Glassofshloer · 22/11/2021 19:20

Actors are odd creatures, they’ll kind of just say whatever keeps them in the celebrity bubble without giving it any critical thought. I really think over time they believe their own hype, disconnect from real life entirely & believe the public are hanging off their every overly-introspective word. They all pretend to be ‘friends’ but look how quickly they turn on each other if a scandal brews & how quickly they will drop anyone whose opinions or face don’t fit.

So not sure I really give a shit about Eddie and his ‘opinions’ 🤷🏼‍♀️

macj1 · 22/11/2021 19:00

Can't stand sight of him ever since he spoke out against JK - his face on front of S Times Mag on Sunday - had to rip it off to be able to stomach reading the rest of the magazine. Surprised they couldn't find some way to re-cast the next Fantastic Beasts franchise, for biting hand that feeds etc.

TheLikesofMe · 22/11/2021 18:59

I hope he donates his fee to Trans R Us.

lunarlandscape · 22/11/2021 18:57

@MatildaIThink

Does he also feel wrong for pretending to be French in Les Misérables, or someone with magic powers in Fantastic Beasts, pretending to have been born in 1809 in The Aeronauts, or an alien in the future in Jupiter Ascending? He certainly should not have pretended to be one of the worlds geniuses in The Theory of Everything.

Well either that, or we accept that acting is acting...

Well said. I notice that many actors are quite tight lipped about this because what if straight male roles could no longer go to gay men? End of Ian McKellen's Shakespearean career.
lovelyweathertoday · 22/11/2021 18:55

I don't really know much about actors, but I've just looked him up and he's not even Danish. What was he thinking? Surely he has realised the part needed to go to. Danish man who transitions during the shooting of the film. Anything else would just be playing pretend or acting.

Oh.

TheMarzipanDildo · 22/11/2021 18:43

“At least we know he wasn't appropriating when he he took the part of hypocritical, sexist Angel Clare in Tess of the d'Urbervilles.”

Poor Tess really had a horrible time of it Sad

TheMarzipanDildo · 22/11/2021 18:40

“I am both supportive of trans rights, and the rights of women. We need to get to a point where we look beyond a very small number of areas where we need women only spaces and be more human and welcoming.“

Well, yes, but we’re not actually allowed sex based women only spaces according to TRAs. All that the women’s rights activists are arguing for is the maintenance of these spaces. And not to have their biologically contingent experiences appropriated or dismissed. Nothing inhumane about that.

Mollyollydolly · 22/11/2021 18:28

I give no shits what the posh boy thinks, if he thinks at all.

Sundaydance · 22/11/2021 17:49

Such a terrible film. His wife was relegated to the role of cheerleader to the husband who was blowing up her life.

Kanaloa · 22/11/2021 17:45

I thought it interesting that the bbc article shoehorned in the following sentence...
The Danish Girl was released months after Redmayne won the Oscar for best actor for playing Professor Stephen Hawking in The Theory of Everything

Honestly embarrassing. It’s like any power of logical thinking just falls out of people’s heads or something.

Did anyone see Bohemian Rhapsody when it was in cinemas? You know NONE of those men were actually the real members of Queen Shock

Gastonia · 22/11/2021 17:41

He’s also played a man in a wheelchair when he can walk.

The story's on the bbc website
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59373295

I thought it interesting that the bbc article shoehorned in the following sentence...
The Danish Girl was released months after Redmayne won the Oscar for best actor for playing Professor Stephen Hawking in The Theory of Everything. Grin

ittakes2 · 22/11/2021 17:38

ArabellaScott - you reinforced my point - who gets to decide who is allowed to have an opinion or not? We are all humans and naturally form opinions subconsiously.... if there is guidance somewhere on who is allowed to express their opinions and who is not - can you please post this maybe it should go in a mumsnet rule book somewhere.

Kanaloa · 22/11/2021 17:32

Although I do remember getting into a disagreement with a friend who said she thought that in movies like Brokeback Mountain the gay characters should be played only by gay actors.

I questioned wouldn’t that actually disadvantage many gay actors, especially in the theatres, if they could only play gay roles? Then where does it stop? David Tennant can only play Scottish people? Nobody in Cobra Kai can be in Cobra Kai unless they’re a black belt karate tournament winner?

That’s more a documentary than acting then. The whole point of acting is that you’re pretending to be someone or something else other than you are/often very different than you are.

Kanaloa · 22/11/2021 17:29

He’s also played a man in a wheelchair when he can walk. And a wizard when (to my knowledge) he isn’t magic. And the lead in a musical when he can barely enunciate his words much less sing.

I suppose he could give back the money he was paid for playing the character in the Danish Girl. Personally I didn’t like the movie and felt it was so long and dull.

HereticFanjo · 22/11/2021 17:28

@MissMinutes24

Rich, posh, white, Old Etonian man Eddie doesn't see a problem. I'm shocked.
This.
ScrollingLeaves · 22/11/2021 17:27

“RVN123
Most historians think they had Klinefelter Syndrome, which is a DSD that males suffer from.“

Thank you, RVN.

IntermittentParps · 22/11/2021 17:23

@Santastuckincustoms

Wait, didn't he get an Oscar for playing Steven hawking? So he presumably doesn't have a problem appropriating disabled people then?
No, and as others have pointed out, appropriating French people, WW1 soldiers, people with magic powers, people from the 19th century, or er, aliens Grin
Santastuckincustoms · 22/11/2021 17:12

Wait, didn't he get an Oscar for playing Steven hawking? So he presumably doesn't have a problem appropriating disabled people then?

IntermittentParps · 22/11/2021 17:04

@Willowowisp

Does Eddie izzard still play male parts when in boy mode although generally she/her now?
Oh yes, when there's a male role for which Eddie I may get paid more, he/she is there with bells on. Well, trousers on.
Rightsraptor · 22/11/2021 17:01

@weverly you asked at 12.58 if male staff should not work in women's prisons, if I understood correctly.

Rhonda Hotchkiss, who was governor of Cornton Vale women's prison in Scotland, once said she'd expected the women would say 'no male staff' when they were asked for their views. But no, lots of them liked the men and, as Rhona said, those men were often the only good, decent men the women had ever met. Shocking, isn't it?

Willowowisp · 22/11/2021 16:50

Does Eddie izzard still play male parts when in boy mode although generally she/her now?

RVN123 · 22/11/2021 16:43

@ScrollingLeaves

I have just been looking up the real Lili Elbe and it seems possible she was someone who was born with a DSD - she was found to have shrunken ovaries in one operation. Apparently there is a rate DSD where a person, usually female, has both testicular and ovarian tissue. Lili Elbe might have been female from the start. Apparently even as a man she was taken as a girl dressed as a man.

So a trans woman may not necessarily be right for the part.

The reports of them being a sufferer of a DSD have never been confirmed. The information, that they had 'rudimentary ovaries' comes from an account written by Elbe themselves and was never verified. Most historians think they had Klinefelter Syndrome, which is a DSD that males suffer from.
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Ratherly · 22/11/2021 16:36

... is a pillock