Feel very angry about being called transphobic

Ah, well that's grand then! I've only seen one and it's negative but not necessarily just about this thread, saying that an advertisers ad is coming up in the middle of a load of transphobic threads.

Actually, luckily it is a feminist Tits. I know, usually it is not.

And Humous is getting lots of support.

Still, she might not have wanted quite that attention.

Someone clearly hanging around looking for things to complain about...

Someone has tweeted it as a positive and there are women posting in support, from what I've seen.

tell us the group so we can all join, then comment on the pervy posts

and SCREENSHOT EVERYTHING.

keep the receipts.

Same goes for members of the other FB groups. Keep the receipts

HumousWhereTheHeartIs

Someone has tweeted your thread, just so you know.

no its just attention seeking for validation of their libido, both sexes do it

I fully agree with most of your post; it’s very well put. I’m not sure about this bit though.

It seems to me that women only do this if they’re actually conventionally attractive. And the general reaction to conventionally unattractive women doing it isn’t the same as the reaction to conventionally unattractive TW doing it. And of course their chosen audience is generally different. I don’t think a TW exposing their underwear to a make-up group full of women could reasonably expect their audience to find it sexy. So it seems like a qualitatively different behaviour, where the hoped-for reaction is something other than admiration.

All part of a wide men's sexual rights movement on multiple fronts. Boundaries are bigotry, females saying no can f off and have no space if they won't gladly tolerate male people letting it all hang out and enjoying themselves inappropriately.

Female people enjoying the glow of isnt it nice to be nice and aren't a lovely caring mummy type person and self congratulating themselves on all that are not really helping much. And the unconscious sexism and double standards behind it is strong. You only have to spend minutes on AIBU to realise the high standards women expect of each other and how little crap they will accept from each other.

I came on to talk about Snag tights and their advertising only to be beaten to it. Commented on their Facebook about an photo of a bare chested man wearing tights and silky women's pants saying allowing men's fetishes not being appropriate etc and was told men have worn tights for many years! Not really the point I was making. Also a poster asked to f off with my views/agenda. Don't they realised he is pushing his sexual agenda in plain sight?

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if your looking for it from the opposite sex its a sign of low self esteem and poor self image, being praised for your body will just feed into the idea thats all that matters, outside validation, it doesnt actually help build self esteem as that comes from within and a fuck the world I dont care what others think mentality.

in terms of the T I would say theres 2 additional points to it, being accepted and being in control as a male women must submit to you, from the mother onwards a womans job is to nurture and support so they get more vitriol if they break that mold then a man with an opinion would.

so its low self esteem, seeking validation and the rush of having power and superiority.

sorry I read too many psychology books.

Ugh, deliberate underwear 'flashing' pics is grim. I'd be absolutely fuming about being kicked out of a group for making a comment about finding that inappropriate.

I can't help noticing that these are the kinds of images of women that men like to look at. Soft porn / smut stuff. As a woman, I don't find it sexy to look at pictures like that (of men or women) and I also don't find it sexy to pose like that. It's all about the male gaze.

It all sounds a bit like bringing a 1970s Playboy magazine vibe to an interest group. But of course those women were being paid to display themselves to the male gaze, which raises the question; what is the motivation here?

Fetish.

Can you tell us the group so we can all join, then comment on the pervy posts and get kicked out might send the message, other women who genuinely want to stay in the group maybe too frightened to speak out
What a great idea! There are a few posters here who could turn things around with a witty, precise comment or two.

These poor women who don't even realise their boundaries have been hijacked by sexually motivated fetishist groomer-abusers. They are lambs to the slaughter.

I am wondering if it is about fetishes or if it's actually how men see women. That they have be 'slutty'/showing flesh etc... not just to be recognised as a real woman but also to be recognised (as in only women who show flesh and have the right body shape are worthy type of thinking).

If that is, then it shows howmcuh work there is left to do :(:(

What is it about this group that arouses such defensive passion in some women? It’s just bizarre. No reasonable adult would want to discriminate against anyone or any minority group surely but requiring the suspension of rules and codes of behaviour that benefit all of us especially women for one minority groups benefit solely is asking too much surely? Yet some usually younger women become so passionate even weepy on trans women’s behalf yet if you look at the actual stats it’s women themselves that are at far more risk than trans people are. It’s most odd.

Can you tell us the group so we can all join, then comment on the pervy posts and get kicked out might send the message, other women who genuinely want to stay in the group maybe too frightened to speak out

YY to this

No, definitely not just you. There have been a fair few posts on here about Snag and their dubious marketing campaigns putting men and their fetishes at the heart of them. Grim.

I’m not into being advertised to by companies supporting camming sites. Won’t be buying from them now!