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Victim Support tweets that Transwidows are abusers

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BitMuch · 20/11/2021 20:02

twitter.com/VictimSupport/status/1404352816538435586

'If your partner refuses to use your correct pronouns or deadnames you, this is #abuse and it’s unacceptable.'

This graphic also appears to have been drawn to call Transwidows and their children transphobic for using correct-sex pronouns twitter.com/VictimSupport/status/1442769813428965376.

Victim Support state you should always use demanded pronouns, including non-binary made-up ones, no matter how obviously male or female a person is. twitter.com/VictimSupport/status/1415246776177672193

Victim Support is the charity women who have been domestically abused and raped are referred to by the police. They support and advise women during the police investigation and in court as well as those who haven't reported to the police.

Victim Support have been given 'Star Performer' status by Stonewall and rank highly on the Stonewall Index. www.victimsupport.org.uk/victim-support-named-top-charity-third-year-stonewall-workplace-equality/

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NoNotMeNoSiree · 21/11/2021 03:21

@Gymohithoughtyousaidgin

Can I identify as a Kardashian?
Eh?
Gymohithoughtyousaidgin · 21/11/2021 02:55

Can I identify as a Kardashian?

2319inprogress · 21/11/2021 02:35

This is vile Angry "victim support" endorses forced speech & therefore coercive control WTF?!!!

NoNotMeNoSiree · 21/11/2021 02:28

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

This gaslighting would be sickening from any charity or public body. But from Victim Support??? Does someone need to ask them what they think the words ‘victim’ and ‘support’ mean?
Yes, of course women with transitioning partners can be victims too. It's not necessarily gaslighting. Why can't people who are trans but have partners who refuse to accept them, call them names,emotionally abuse them be abusers too? I think that's what they're saying. Which is a fair enough point.
BoreOfWhabylon · 21/11/2021 02:13

This is something Woman's Hour should address. Why not email Emma Barnett Tinsel?

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 21/11/2021 01:59

This gaslighting would be sickening from any charity or public body. But from Victim Support??? Does someone need to ask them what they think the words ‘victim’ and ‘support’ mean?

Agrona · 21/11/2021 00:04

Sorry Tinsel and other Transwidows. The tweet is completely missing the point.

Agrona · 21/11/2021 00:02

@terryleather

This is a complete and utter fucking disgrace. I'd say shame on the lot of them, but they have no shame.
This!
RedDogsBeg · 20/11/2021 23:59

@EarthSight

Can't find the tweet. Seems like it's been deleted. Interesting.
Still there when I click the link.

TinselFlowers for you and your fellow Transwidows.

Victim Support you are reprehensible.

EarthSight · 20/11/2021 23:56

Can't find the tweet. Seems like it's been deleted. Interesting.

bordermidgebite · 20/11/2021 23:20

So you don't have to do anything you are uncomfortable with , but that could make you the abuser

Nice

BlueBrush · 20/11/2021 22:50

If your partner refuses to use your correct pronouns or deadnames you, this is abuse and it’s unacceptable.

I know people often (half)joke about the Twitter accounts of big organisations being run by teenagers, but my first thought reading that is that it's written by someone with no experience of a long-term relationship, or even the empathy to imagine what it would be like to be with someone for 10 years who then announces they are changing their gender and wish to be known by different pronouns.

TedImgoingmad · 20/11/2021 22:45

The organisation for victims victimising the victims. I think this one has upset me more than anything else these fucking bastards have done.

If anyone needs investigating by the Charities Commission, it is organisations like this one who are playing politics and effectively excluding a class of victims based on their beliefs (and firm grip on reality).

Flowers Tinsel and all the transwidows and their children.

Grumpyosaurus · 20/11/2021 22:44

What the actual FUCK?

It's more comfortable than thinking.

Flowers to Tinsel and others.

ArabellaScott · 20/11/2021 22:44

Oh, look.

'Victim Support was placed 25th in Stonewall’s Top 100 Employers list for 2020 and 5th in this year’s National Centre for Diversity top 100 employers’ list.'

www.victimsupport.org.uk/more-us/about-us/equality-diversity-and-inclusion/

ArabellaScott · 20/11/2021 22:42

@Thelnebriati

Its worrying that they are so ignorant of UK law, and feel its ok to misrepresent it this way.
The fact that they are labelling a person calling their spouse by the name they married them under as 'abuse' is just ... I don't know what to say. It's worse, isn't it? It's saying that if someone refuses to say something to you they are abusing you. I just cannot imagine that they could come up with a more offensive statement. Compelled speech. Forced compliance. The tweets in themselves seem abusive to me.

I'd like to see some of the domestic abuse sector respond to this. What do Women's Aid say, do they say a woman who refuses to use a different name/pronoun for her spouse is perpetrating abuse?

HoardingFloralBuntingInACervix · 20/11/2021 22:36

Well done Tinsel. This absolutely needs stink kicked up. Disgraceful.

ArabellaScott · 20/11/2021 22:36

Also thread starts with 'members of the LGBT+ community' and then goes on about transition and nothing else. Do the other letters just not exist anymore?

ArabellaScott · 20/11/2021 22:34

Unfuckingbelievable. No. No. No.

Compelling someone to use certain words, a pronoun or name is potentially abusive! Gaslighting bastards.

ArabellaScott · 20/11/2021 22:32

What the FUCK?

DifficultBloodyWoman · 20/11/2021 22:25

What the actual fuck???

terryleather · 20/11/2021 22:24

Bloody awful. It's a men's sexual rights movement.

Absolutely right it is.

MichelleScarn · 20/11/2021 22:19

Oo so the TRA are on it now and thanking victim support for being against the hobbyists...

MichelleScarn · 20/11/2021 22:16

They are fuckers. Tinsel you are amazing to have gone through what you have and still be able to be such a force for others.

Thelnebriati · 20/11/2021 22:15

Its worrying that they are so ignorant of UK law, and feel its ok to misrepresent it this way.

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