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Labour member suspended for saying only women go through menopause

144 replies

poshme · 18/11/2021 16:44

Not sure if it's anywhere else, but according Guido Fawkes, a Labour member has been suspended for saying on Facebook that only women go through the menopause.

order-order.com/2021/11/18/labour-in-hot-flush-after-member-suspended-for-saying-only-women-experience-the-menopause/

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noraclavicle · 19/11/2021 22:56

In a shock turn of events, Gil received a letter this evening explaining that the initial letter was "an administrative error", he is not suspended and no further action will be taken
I’ll bet you a pound to a penny that if Gil had been a female party member he would not have received that.

Appledrop · 19/11/2021 22:48

[quote Appledrop]We certainly won't be voting for them either, not that we have anyway. Has anyone noticed this person on twitter? Fell into it from another link from this page. I am so digusted!!

mobile.twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1461468365881589770[/quote]
The tiktok video that is not the OP.

Appledrop · 19/11/2021 22:46

We certainly won't be voting for them either, not that we have anyway. Has anyone noticed this person on twitter? Fell into it from another link from this page. I am so digusted!!

mobile.twitter.com/hatpinwoman/status/1461468365881589770

Voice0fReason · 19/11/2021 21:53

Labour have shown complete contempt for women. Dismissing our concerns, ignoring our voices, calling us bigots.
Kier has been such a disappointment and he was the best option of all of them last time around.
I cannot bring myself to vote for them.

Redshoeblueshoe · 19/11/2021 21:46

OMG thanks for posting MrsHouse - for you WineWineWine

GreyhoundG1rl · 19/11/2021 21:38

@FlyingOink

Looks real to me. Is anyone in Labour denying it yet?
Engaged in behaviour grossly detrimental to the party?! What sort of parallel universe do these clowns inhabit?
TheMenopausalMrsHouse · 19/11/2021 21:38

He gave up alcohol this month, I am angry drinking for him. Wine

Grumpyosaurus · 19/11/2021 21:36

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse, [flower] to you and your husband. What a horrible stressful situation in, just for stating biological facts.

Gil received a letter this evening explaining that the initial letter was "an administrative error"
As our Scottish posters are fond of saying, Aye right.

Camdenish · 19/11/2021 21:35

Wow @TheMenopausalMrsHouse just wow.

It’s impossible to leave the Labour Party anyway. Believe me I’ve tried!

Thank your husband from me too.

TheMenopausalMrsHouse · 19/11/2021 21:29

In a shock turn of events, Hmm Gil received a letter this evening explaining that the initial letter was "an administrative error", he is not suspended and no further action will be taken. And soz for any distress or confusion caused, but hey, all good, yeah?

I see you, Labour, and you disgust me. And there's a lot of people who see you for what you are, and the bad news is that we are not as stupid or as naive as you obviously think we are. You lost my vote a long time ago and I am no where near being persuaded to give you another chance.

He has had a lot of support from some local activists, and I think it would be fair to say that they are the one reason he would reconsider his resignation. Labour don't deserve it.

Manderleyagain · 19/11/2021 21:22

Mrs House, thanks for posting here. Well done to both of you. It must have been horrible when the email came.

I really hope this gets some press coverage. People need to know about this and understand what's going on. A journalist would be able to ask questions of the labour party, and it would be lovely if the eejits who reported him found that the story ran and ran.

OperationDessertStorm · 19/11/2021 19:58

Please thank him from me also (another ex Labour voter)

DdraigGoch · 19/11/2021 19:25

@foxgoosefinch the Telegraph doesn't do share tokens, I'm afraid.

fournonblondes · 19/11/2021 18:04

Gosh things are bad when someone stating facts get suspended. Labour is such a joke.

foxgoosefinch · 19/11/2021 17:32

Absolutely @merrymouse - trans ideology is completely antithetical to Marxism. It’s a version of market capitalist neoliberalism - eg. if there’s a market for it there’s no moral judgment; in fact self-transformation is an individualist moral imperative.

Trans ideology is more connected to the growth of the plastic surgery industry than it is to any form of traditional left wing or Marxist thought.

merrymouse · 19/11/2021 17:26

I disagree with this part of that Telegraph article.

Trans ideology sits neatly in a smorgasbord of Marxist “solutions” or “demands” that seek not only to disrupt and destroy capitalism, but every other structure that has underpinned society for centuries. Just because.

Marxism requires material class analysis. OJ et al have no interest in that. They just want to protect their tribal affiliations and affirm status.

Trans ideology is based in the American ideal that individuals should be able to do what they want to do without regulation, whether that is own guns or tigers.

foxgoosefinch · 19/11/2021 17:25

@DdraigGoch do you have the full article by any chance?

DdraigGoch · 19/11/2021 16:54

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/19/starmer-doesnt-want-stir-culture-war-trans-rights-should-stop/

Tom Harris (a Labour minister under Blair/Brown) on the weak leadership we are seeing.

DdraigGoch · 19/11/2021 16:54

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/19/starmer-doesnt-want-stir-culture-war-trans-rights-should-stop/

Tom Harris (a Labour minister under Blair/Brown) on the weak leadership we are seeing.

Appledrop · 19/11/2021 16:01

I am so worried for the future of us women, I live in Wales and it's primarily Labour here.

Hoppinggreen · 19/11/2021 13:41

@MackenCheese

Only women go through menopause. Medical fact. I don't see what the problem is.
Cos facts might hurt someone’s feeeeeeeelings
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 19/11/2021 13:38

I think they are in it for the identity of being the righteous, right side of history opposition. They get to maintain their identity as the ideological puritans, who told you so about the evil Tories, without ever having to get their hands dirty and carry the responsibility of making real decisions that have real effects on the country.

Sad to say, I think that is the truth. What happened to all those passionate socialists who were in it to make a real difference for ordinary people?

Imagine if we’d had the present Labour party after the war. We would have no NHS, no welfare state, no modern education system, none of the mighty action against poverty and ignorance …

merrymouse · 19/11/2021 12:23

mrs house please say thank you to your husband.

It is important to acknowledge that only women go through menopause because women can suffer direct and indirect discrimination because of menopause. If you pretend that pregnancy, periods etc. etc. could happen to anyone you lose the language necessary to talk about sex based discrimination.

The Labour Party used to pretend to care about that kind of thing.

Now it seems they expel the people who do.

Abitofalark · 19/11/2021 12:13

I'm really sorry to read about your husband. He put his heart and soul into working for his party and look how they treated him. He deserves so much better than that. Wishing you both all the best.

Dinosauria · 19/11/2021 12:10

@TheMenopausalMrsHouse

We live close to Rosie Duffield's constituency, and he has always supported her. I think that seeing how she is treated by the party (and there is a lot of vitriol aimed her way in the local branch), reinforced everything I had been saying to him about Labour (I've been a very unsupportive political wife, I'm afraid). He started seeing how blatant the misogyny is, he became very vocal in his support of Rosie. He can't believe that someone reported his post, or that it was taken seriously enough to suspend him. I'm less surprised.
Thank him from me please. What he says matters.