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Sex Matters: ban on 'conversion therapy' bill isn't what people think!

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zafferana · 15/11/2021 08:02

I thought this bill on conversion therapy was about banning gay conversion therapies, but it's not, because those are already illegal. It's about banning doctors from questioning trans teens about the nature of their gender dysphoria - in other words making sure that they unquestioningly 'affirm' those seeking puberty blocking drugs and other interventions, in other words not trying to 'convert' them to their original gender. THIS LAW IS BEING PROPOSED BY STONEWALL, MERMAIDS, and others.

Sex Matters is asking constituents to write to their MPs and pressure the government to allow time for the proper consultation, rather than rushing this legislation through, which is apparently the current intention.

Link to Sex Matters website, which has a proforma email ready to go - all you have to do is fill in your and your MP's information: sex-matters.org/posts/sex/press-pause-on-conversion-therapy-law/

OP posts:
FindTheTruth · 01/12/2021 05:11

10 DAYS TO GO

"you might think that i would support
this ban but i don't
i strongly oppose it
it does not do what it says on the tin
in fact it will do the opposite
it will lead to more medical conversion
of young gay lesbian and bisexual people"

Gumbomambo · 29/11/2021 10:19

Me too.

Manderleyagain · 29/11/2021 10:08

The deadline for the consultation is 10th December.

Ionlydomassiveones · 29/11/2021 10:03

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This has been withdrawn at the poster's request.

tricervixtops · 29/11/2021 09:45

Another bump. Need as many people as possible to engage with this

FindTheTruth · 29/11/2021 04:53

bump

ScrollingLeaves · 19/11/2021 20:47

Had anyone already said that Stonewall, who are seriously conflating conversion therapy for homosexuals with talking therapies for trans identifying people, has an advice page on how to fill out the form?

www.banconversiontherapy.com/guidance-individuals

How can GC views that talking therapies for young people should not be banned (in preference for ‘affirmation’) be strongly enough conveyed to counter this?

Even looking at Stonewall’s glossary if LGBTQ+ terms they have intentionally said so many incorrect things such as that homosexuality means same gender attracted ( while using sex as a word elsewhere) that there is lots of disinformation out there.

UtilityPlayer · 18/11/2021 11:28

@WaverleyOwl

Is there any point in me sending this to my MP (Mhairi Black), as we all know her stance on this issue?
Even more so - then she and that dozy idiot Ellie Mae O'H cannot claim that most women agree with their ludicrous ideas.
kermes · 18/11/2021 10:39

Another one signed and sent.

WaverleyOwl · 18/11/2021 08:09

Is there any point in me sending this to my MP (Mhairi Black), as we all know her stance on this issue?

StellaAndCrow · 18/11/2021 06:16

legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/11/17/conversion-therapy-the-path-to-good-law/

This is a very helpful explanation of what the issues are - it's the text of Naomi Cunningham's talk at the Middle Temple event this week.

StandUpStraight · 17/11/2021 15:16

Great that so many emails are being sent to MPs. I said this on another thread but if you’re thinking about contacting your MP, bear in mind that there might be a bit of a lead time before they read it - my MP’s auto response said to expect it to take 10 days. Since the consultation is due to close 10 December, the more time we give them to action it, the better.

Zazagabor · 17/11/2021 13:26

another one signed and sent

BelleOfTheProvince · 17/11/2021 13:26

Thank you. S&s.

MuthaFunka61 · 17/11/2021 13:25

Also S&S

Cagedbirdsinging · 17/11/2021 13:19

Signed and sent .

UtilityPlayer · 17/11/2021 12:50

Thanks for sharing the link zafferana, I have emailed my MP. Am interested to see if I get a reply, never having emailed her before.

WillyWollyWandy · 15/11/2021 23:01

Thanks for sharing the link. I have sent the email to my MP

Toomuchtea · 15/11/2021 22:13

I've also completed the Sex Matters template (thank you very much for the link zafferana.

StandUpStraight · 15/11/2021 21:59

I have emailed my MP tonight. Conservatives for Women are also collecting info on which MPs have received emails from constituents so they know what the numbers are when they look for support to get the consultation period extended and the evidence revisited.

MrPanks · 15/11/2021 21:16

Both myself, DH and close supportive friend have used the Sex Matters letter to send to our MPs. It was so easy and the letter is so clear and to the point. My DD is very at risk and getting sucked in by this GI madness, please do the same if you can to stand up for safeguarding these vulnerable children.

MsGoodenough · 15/11/2021 18:15

Thanks for this. I've had a go at filling in the consultation but not completed yet. This will help me organise my arguments better

Bosky · 15/11/2021 18:12

Some very good advice and links specific to the Conversion Therapy Bill in this current Mumsnet thread too:

Boris Johnson warned of 'ludicrous contradiction' - Stonewall - TRA advisors - Rushed conversion therapy bill

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4401172-Boris-Johnson-warned-of-ludicrous-contradiction-Stonewall-TRA-advisors-Rushed-conversion-therapy-bill

Also see this wild thread by Malcolm Clark (twisterfilm)!

1./ How BAD is the science employed by the trans lobby? Terrible, if we're to judge by the UK govt's recent study into Conversion Therapy which argues for an affirmation only model for "trans youth". It's only the latest in a tradition of awful, pseudo-science trans research.

threadreaderapp.com/thread/1460054790717808646.html

CruellaDeVilla · 15/11/2021 15:58

I’ve emailed my MP

ScrollingLeaves · 15/11/2021 15:54

Done