Pink News explain the difference between Pan and Bi sexual

Why on earth can't they get over trying to negotiate an identity that parses every possible bloody permutation down to the nth degree of invented categories? It's all hypotheticals, isn't it?

Especially as it can change weekly, daily, and apparently, minute by minute.

It's disturbing how they blithely redefine bisexuality as attraction to multiple genders instead of both sexes.
Biphobic isn't it, no one asked us if this change of meaning was okay.

@BloodinGutters But then it wouldn’t be a pun on pandemic?

I think you can be demisexual but have sex and gender preferences too. I know someone who is lesbian and demisexual i.e. no hookups and a getting to know you phase

So it’s obviously useful/important to refer your sex and gender preferences if you have any, when it comes to dating and getting to know people. From the point of view of the people potentially interested in you.

I think there is a lot of utility in the modern labels from the point of view of just the practical process of dating and getting to know people.

Yes, it can be very tied into identities and tribes and politics. But just as a short hand for who is likely to be interested in who it’s much richer.

I’m almost certainly demisexual, but it’s not a sexual orientation, which for me is straight. Only being able to feel attraction to a man I know very well and can trust is a result of csa and being very introverted. It’s just not a sexuality.

I quite like the pun of being pandemisexual though i.e. attracted to people with whom you have formed a strong emotional bond and it doesn’t matter to you what sex or gender they are. Sort of personality and character first.

Exactly the way that homosexual is homogendered by the 'male lesbian' supporters.

Bisexual is someone who can be sexually attracted to both sexes, so either to a female or to a male.

Exactly the same as any other sexual orientation, each individual shuts themselves off from a whole lot of sub-groups within the sexes

How to add a "P" in the
LGBTQIAP+ ????
So did no-one go the P is taken or will it be we are is going to "reclaim" it
Really can't see the P's not wanting their own special day because as explained the B and the P are different.

The concept
Bisexual = multiple genders = exclusionary and "bad" subgroup of whole class
Pansexual = all genders = inclusionary and "good" whole class

Where did we see that before?

Why on earth can't they get over trying to negotiate an identity that parses every possible bloody permutation down to the nth degree of invented categories? It's all hypotheticals, isn't it?

Why not just go out and meet people and see if you hit it off?

What is the drive, here?

Sleep with any consenting adult that'll have you, indeed.

Aren’t we constant told by gender ideologues that people are trans just because they say they are though, so they might not transition or present in any way different to how they always did. So a tw may well look like a masculine man and vice versa.

Personally I couldn’t find anyone attractive if they deny my sex, however it’s not like I’d know that by looking at them is it, so I think I’d find it hard to say I’d never be attracted to transwomen as a blanket statement, because I might not realise they identify as trans if they have no visible transition.

I'm quite literally very binary in my attraction - masculine men and feminine women. I respect everyone but that's just what I fancy.

See, now I’m the opposite - I like effeminate men and butch women. But being proudly effeminate or butch is part of the attraction. I would be really put off by having to pretend to believe an effeminate man or butch woman was actually the opposite sex, or having to tell others this was so. I suppose that make me a bisexual transphobe with a penchant for non-conformity.

A femme-presenting man as that's what they'd be if I mistook them for a lesbian.

@PriamFarrl it's an interesting question and I've never been in that situation. I'm not sure I ever would be because when it comes to women (or did when I was single) like I said I'm into feminine women. A trans man who appears to be a lesbian woman would generally not be a femme-presenting person. They'd present as masc and so likely not be my type.

But if they did by chance catch my eye I don't think I would continue for a couple of reasons. 1) If they were right at the beginning of their journey tbh I'd probably not want to sign up to years of supporting someone through that self discovery, surgery etc so I'd leave it there. 2) If they were already transitioned to male I also probably wouldn't continue as they'd be a somewhat femme-presenting man and as above I like masculine men.

Even if that gets me some hate I can't help what I find attractive any more than straight or gay people can.

Doesn’t pan mean all, would therefore the converse (?) be “monogender”?

I'm bisexual. I am attracted to natal men and natal women. I'm not attracted to non-binary, trans or otherwise gender fluid etc individuals.

I'm quite literally very binary in my attraction - masculine men and feminine women. I respect everyone but that's just what I fancy.

So I'm not pansexual. I'm not attracted to anyone regardless of gender or gender expression. I like natal men and I like natal women. That's it.

What’s ‘otherkin’?

And what’s the one where people wear prosthetic ear extensions that look like elves’ ears?

Trying to keep up but failing …

It's largely about stuffing everyone forcibly into boxes labelled 'compliant with this political agenda'.

Yeah, no.

Someone needs to warn the person declining to sleep with otherkin that being a nonsensephobe is now probably a crime in Scotland.

I think that a heterosexual or a homosexual can be pansexual. That's because pansexual is simply one of those identities that people can opt into or opt out of, mainly for the purposes of group belonging.

As Datun wrote, the key thing about being pansexual is a display of agreeing with transgenderism.

And the reason she is redefining bisexual to mean attracted to at least 2 genders is that otherwise bisexual people implicitly don't believe transgender ideology and are thus transphobic.

They need to redefine the L G and B to be about attraction to genders otherwise the T has nothing to attach itself to.

Personally I like pansexual as a concept. I like that people are attracted to others regardless of how they identify. Why shut yourself off from a group?

What group? One you're not attracted to?

So much of this seems purely to show if you are on the right-thinking-holy -blessed-by-the-angels genderist "side" or the evil-fascist-terf-bigots-"side".

Personally I like pansexual as a concept. I like that people are attracted to others regardless of how they identify. Why shut yourself off from a group?

Attraction isn't about identity though. There are two sexes and if you're attracted to people of both sexes then you're bisexual.
The identity stuff is personality. There is no need for a sexuality to describe attraction to differing personality types.