Pink News explain the difference between Pan and Bi sexual

So demisexuals feel attraction only after we get to know & trust a person. (Which is actually most people ime) but don’t want to jump Brad Pitt just looking at him in a magazine.

This is how the lgbt+ alphabet defines it.

And your post above- that’s what I keep telling everyone. Sexuality relates to which sex people are attracted to, not what type of attraction they feel to them (whether sexual, physical, romantic, emotional etc).

But taking it to mean people feel sexual attraction only to that group of people (whether set gender or whether only people we trust yadda yadda) means any sexuality can be added to it and it just looks ‘progressive’. It’s a basic misunderstanding of the terminology by many, and a deliberate manipulation of that misunderstanding by some. Which I’ve had to explain to teachers more times than I liked before it finally sank in. (Why tf do primary teachers need it explaining that sexual orientation is the SEX a person is attracted to???) it would be funny if it wasn’t so terrifying.

"I still don’t understand how it’s different from bisexual though."

That will always be the case when sex and gender are conflated.

If sexual attraction is all about gender then why did they need the cotton ceiling, er, 'workshop'?

Foot even, but who cares about the meaning of latin words.

And no doubt a thirty page position paper/instruction manual from Stonewall about how to safely Get On Your Bike...

Biped = An animal with more than one leg.

What confuses me is 'pan' as a prefix means 'all', so a pansexual person is attracted to 'all' sexes.

It's a misnomer because, as it's used, it's really "pangender". If you have someone who is attracted to all genders, then they don't have to be bisexual. A heterosexual women could be attracted only to men and so long as the men are willing to apply any of the gender labels to themselves, then the woman would be "pangenderal".

We will soon see the advent of the multi-wheel bicycle.

[quote NadiaVulvokov]@BloodinGutters

Is it really though? Because I would have thought not discriminating against people on basis of who they choose to sleep with and how they come to that decision would be a good thing?

Rather than protecting only people who choose to sleep with x or y group of people?[/quote]
Our equality act provides protection for those attracted to same opposite or both sexes.

So we’re all covered from discrimination under that.

It’s bizarre but it’s under the umbrella of asexuality.

How does that even make sense though? It's like they are randomly assigning meaning to these words.

Thinking about how these ideas seem to be confuing the word sexual, as in being attracted to one or more of the sexes, I think I've had a brainwave.

The people saying this stuff have totally misunderstood the word sex, as in your biological reproductive role. They think it's a very, who you want to have sex with. As in, if you are pansexual you want to have sex with any sort of being, if you are bisexual you want to have sex with several sorts of beings, etc. Not that you are attracted to their biological sex.

Our education system is really shit these days, or the kids have melted their brains of tictok, I can't decide.

I think you can be demisexual but have sex and gender preferences too. I know someone who is lesbian and demisexual i.e. no hookups and a getting to know you phase

That's just a perfectly normal, average approach to sex for a lot of people. Maybe the majority of people.

The idea that it's related to asexuality is completely bizarre. It's also the sort of thing that can change quite often over the course of a lifetime.

The idea that standard sexuality means being up for casual sex is bizarre.

Oh the video in the OP! Behold, a teenager has arrived to teach us about sexuality

Is teensplaining a word? It should be.

“Why shut yourself off from a group?”

Because you’re not attracted to them? Does there have to be any other reason?

WeeBisom I agree, they are redefining the word because it would look really bad if they removed an entire letter from the LGBT.
Still bad though. I'm not amused that they're telling me that I'm attracted to "genders".

Y'all spend each and every day thinking about your junk and it shows

I'm inclined to agree.

Except if you're actually a lesbian, in which case, no one gives a shit that's your identity, and many will try to override it.

Unless you were born male. Largely that label has been taken from females to be given to males and celebrated for them, and any female declaring themselves a lesbian is now seen as making a political statement about gatekeeping their vagina from males and not being willing to confirm a male person's gender identity with their body.

Which of course is wholly unacceptable and requires casting out the evil one with the tambourine dancing 'repent' person.

A proper female will announce their proper political purity by naming themselves queer or pan, which means 'not excluding male people as a sex class from my body'.

It's alllllllllllllllll about dividing the world into the righteous and the heretics.

@WeeBisom - great minds think alike!

From the Twitter responses.

Fifty seconds of nonsensical gibberish

The awkward fact is the traditional definition of 'bisexual' meaning attraction to both sexes is now 'transphobic' by today's standards, and so to make it more palatable it has to mean 'attraction to two or more genders' which of course makes it the same as pansexual. The impression I get is that you are grudgingly allowed to use the word 'bisexual' because of its historic importance within the LGBTQ+ rainbow, but on the understanding that you are using the new definition as opposed to the classic, 'transphobic' one.You will often see clashes online about whether bisexual is outdated and transphobic because it means 'attraction to two' , with young people tying themselves in knots to deny the root meaning of the term. I think, to be honest, if the genderists had their way bisexual would be a forbidden term and we would all have to use 'pansexual', but I think that even they are leery of getting rid of an entire component of the LGBT especially when bisexual people have been such a huge part of gay liberation (the first pride parade was organised by a bisexual woman.)

What confuses me is 'pan' as a prefix means 'all', so a pansexual person is attracted to 'all' sexes. But as there are only 2 sexes, surely it is an inorrect definition? Shouldn't it be 'pangenderist' or something (assuming you belive the gender woo) otherwise the correct term would be 'bisexual'?

I suppose you can't claim to be the most interesting and special person in the room if you are are actually just bisexual.

@BloodinGutters

Is it really though? Because I would have thought not discriminating against people on basis of who they choose to sleep with and how they come to that decision would be a good thing?

Rather than protecting only people who choose to sleep with x or y group of people?

[quote NadiaVulvokov]@BloodinGutters But then it wouldn’t be a pun on pandemic?

I think you can be demisexual but have sex and gender preferences too. I know someone who is lesbian and demisexual i.e. no hookups and a getting to know you phase

So it’s obviously useful/important to refer your sex and gender preferences if you have any, when it comes to dating and getting to know people. From the point of view of the people potentially interested in you.

I think there is a lot of utility in the modern labels from the point of view of just the practical process of dating and getting to know people.

Yes, it can be very tied into identities and tribes and politics. But just as a short hand for who is likely to be interested in who it’s much richer.[/quote]
That’s preferences though, we all have preferences. Same as the 100s of genders. It’s just personality and personal preferences at the end of the day.

That’s not the same as sexual orientation. Which is legally protected and defined under the equality act. The push for pansexual etc to be seen as the same takes away meaning from understanding of the legalisation, and is a way of forcing change of it by stealth.

[quote NadiaVulvokov]@BloodinGutters But then it wouldn’t be a pun on pandemic?

I think you can be demisexual but have sex and gender preferences too. I know someone who is lesbian and demisexual i.e. no hookups and a getting to know you phase

So it’s obviously useful/important to refer your sex and gender preferences if you have any, when it comes to dating and getting to know people. From the point of view of the people potentially interested in you.

I think there is a lot of utility in the modern labels from the point of view of just the practical process of dating and getting to know people.

Yes, it can be very tied into identities and tribes and politics. But just as a short hand for who is likely to be interested in who it’s much richer.[/quote]
Except if you're actually a lesbian, in which case, no one gives a shit that's your identity, and many will try to override it.