I just want things done

I'm sorry, this would both enrage and sadden me too.

What utter wankers.

Ousted are having a big push on peer on peer abuse at the moment. If Ofsted were to visit, they would almost certainly ask how you as a school have responded to their report and Everyone's Invited. Currently the truth would be that the school has minimised and silenced the victims because they aren't inclusive enough. I don't think this would wash with Ofsted. Can you raise this with the Head or Chair of Governors? Or, for the nuclear option, report anonymously to Ofsted.

I'd be tempted to acquiesce and come up with charts on the actual demographic served, separating out every single time woman, man, transman and transwoman at every meeting. To be honest you could also just talk about male and female. I don't think any other sexes have been invented yet... it is just "woman" being erased [hard eye roll]

OP I have nothing useful to add but all the evidence is on your side. There are some excellent links posted here, so you will find what you need to fight this.

I felt like banging my head on a table when I read your post - not easy when in bed with a cup of tea. The horribly deft way these colleagues turned the whole thing around onto the women was chilling. They are not fit to work with you.

Would ofsteds report on peer on peer abuse be any use? They acknowledge that 9/10 perpetrators are male & 8/10 victims female.

Dfe guidance also acknowledges this.

Crime stats back this up even more (someone else will have links I’m sure).

Safeguarding relies on naming material reality, the victims need to be free to use whatever terminology makes it possible for them to speak up.

I don’t know if ‘alternative education’ means kids, but if so ofsted in the times (I think) said they expect over half of all outstanding secondaries that are rated outstanding will loose that, some dropping to inadequate. They were vague about why but did reference the peer on peer abuse study.

Can you report this to them? To dfe? Or tell baroness Nicholson or safe schools alliance?

Groups that can help if you're in the UK
sex-matters.org/
kareningalasmith.com/
fairplayforwomen.com/
womansplaceuk.org/
legalfeminist.org.uk/

I would suggest that we look at the evidence base for which groups are the victims of attack and which are not

Staff x and staff y's antipathy to recognising the critical importance of sex differences with regards to sexual violence and abuse, means they are not serving the interests of students.

Maya Forstarters case protects our legal right to talk about sex. It protects our students and it protects me in raising these concerns with you. We should be able to speak about sex and use sexed language, especially in meetings about sexual violence, without fear of being shamed or being berated by woke staff.

Staff x and staff y have acted contrary to the Equality Act 2010 protected characteristic of sex. Calling women who have survived sexual violence 'privileged' is discriminatory.

The United Nations recognises that (men’s) violence against women in public and private life impedes the ability of women and girls to claim, realise [SIC] and enjoy their human rights on an equal foot with men.

It is not hate to speak the truth. the truth is that women in our organisation have been sexually abused and that they are 'women' and this happened because they are 'women'. Removing the word 'women' is exclusionary not inclusive.

Our staff have a lead role with regards to the protection of the demographic that is the subject of this abuse and that demographic is 'women'. Staff x and Y's track record is one of undermining the human rights abuses of and specialist provision for that subjugated demographic, women.

In effect both I and the victims have been called “hateful” simply for making statements about male attacks on women.

Staff x and Staff y are silencing and punishing lawful speech about sex and gender as “transphobic”, with me being bullied and harassed at work and questioned for using ordinary every day language.

Staff who prevent people using ordinary language about the sexes, when sex is relevant - in this case sexual assault - are creating a hostile environment for other staff and service users.

OP which country are you in? In the UK, possible actions include 1) book a meeting with your MP, 2)raise it with the regulatory body and of course 3) contact women's groups of which there are many.

Dear safeguarding officer

I have concerns about staff X and staff Y. I met with them on to discuss the sexual assaults on X number of women.

1. X and Y showed no empathy with the victims and went further by saying they were cis and privileged - in effect victim blaming. X and Y prioritised their political / philosophical views over the needs of victims, and do not, in my view, belong in a role or organisation with safeguarding responsibility.

2. X and Y argued it was transphobic and exclusionary to focus on the women assaulted in our establishment or use the words woman and women. We help no one if we don’t acknowledge who is doing what to whom and why.

3. X and Y wasted on airing political views and student essay narrative rather than helping our victims. Of the 2 hour meeting, X minutes were spent on terms like 'heteronormative' and X minutes were spent discussing HOW to prevent assaults

n)...

So you meet with colleagues about several women being sexually assaulted. And their response is that women are cis and privileged, that talking about it is 'heteronormative' and that focusing on women being assaulted by men is transphobic?

Were the people who said this male or female?

I suppose it's easier than talking about the actual issue...

Yes, it is a kind of displacement activity.

I am so tired. I work frontline with this, whereas these other colleagues have positions/roles which allow them to not have to engage directly with the distress I have had to deal with.

Can you tell them this or is it a lost cause? Maybe if you tell them directly enough they're wasting everyone's time with abstract debates while the students in their care are being hurt, it will turn out they're capable of shame?

Totally undersstand that this might not be possible at your workplace. This shit is so infuriating. I'm so sorry you are having to deal with it.

I am so sorry for your experiences.

Is this a paid role or part of your paid work or voluntary?

I would really struggle to work with a group of people if they were aiming to tackle violence and harassment against women but not centre women.

I doubt they will get much done if they cannot even identify who they are meant to be helping, so if it is voluntary, I'd put my efforts into another group if you have an option.

Good luck.

What is the group- at one institution or across many?

What is your position in the group? How many people?

Was it organised IE chair agenda minutes etc? Or a free for all?

Few things you can do but depend on situation.

Oh fucking hell.

I suppose it's easier than talking about the actual issue...

In a setting like that and on this topic though.. That's fucking outrageous. What were they thinking, spending the session talking about that instead of topic?