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ScreamingMeMe · 2021-11-11T19:38:51+00:00

The only news outlet that seems to have picked this up is the odious Pink News, who discovered that Jackie's Parliamentary page has her as a member of the Women and Equalities Committe since 2 November. Pink News and Peter Tatchell are unhappy. [[https://members.parliament.uk/member/4065/career]] "Oh *@PeterTatchell* darling. I fight for the rights of women. And my views on marriage are consistent and why I have never married myself. Lots of love xxx" [[https://twitter.com/JackieDP/status/1458764937791213573?s=20]]

titchy · 12/11/2021 13:29

@JellySaurus

*Last year, despite literally voting against equality for same-sex couples, she declared: “Darlings, I have always supported equality for same-sex couples.

“I don’t support the state interfering with religious sacraments. All civil marriages should be styled civil unions. That’s what informed my vote on same-sex marriage.”*

*“It’s really regressive that we’ve almost re-adopted gender stereotyping and almost turned it into a science.

“We all know going through puberty is not a pleasant time and some girls will feel very uncomfortable with their bodies. And the fact this movement is encouraging them to think, ‘Well, you might not really be a girl’ in childhood, I just think is so dangerous. And we just need to give children the chance to grow up.”*

Yes. 100% this.

Jackie, you speak sense.

Is her view then that only religious unions should be called marriages then? Regardless of whether the couple are same or different sex? And that any non-religious union should be called a civil partnership even between a straight couple?

If so I can't find any issue with that.

LobsterNapkin · 12/11/2021 13:23

@picklemewalnuts

Being against gay marriage isn't necessarily an anti gay stance- although it can be.

If you believe the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman, then same sex marriage is a contradiction in terms. Many people who are against same sex marriage are perfectly happy with civil partnerships.

It isn't a hill I'd die on, but I can understand the linguistic issue people have with it.

One of the reasons SSM was not on the table for many gay rights organisations early on is that it was more controversial among their own membership.

There were some who say marriage as inherently heteronormative and not something to be copied. (And I believe I may have heard PT take this view to some extent?)

For others, the sociological purpose of marriage is primarily about protecting women who were married to men, and children, and they felt that was something that shouldn't be compromised in any way.

Basically, if you take a simple view of equality which means everyone needs to be the same, it seems like a no-brainer, but lots of people think that when we are talking about how sex differences intersect with social structures, it can be more complicated.

It's not been a good thing, this reflexive assumption that a different view on this is homophobic. It's very much played into the narrative that a more nuanced view on gender issues is transphobic.

Datun · 12/11/2021 13:23

It's my understanding that quite a few people, if they are religious, make this distinction about civil partnerships and marriage.

I guess it's about balancing protected characteristics. Religious belief, with sexual orientation.

I was a bit confused about it all, at first, because there are some other people I admire who also believe the same, but I think that's the explanation.

JellySaurus · 12/11/2021 13:04

*Last year, despite literally voting against equality for same-sex couples, she declared: “Darlings, I have always supported equality for same-sex couples.

“I don’t support the state interfering with religious sacraments. All civil marriages should be styled civil unions. That’s what informed my vote on same-sex marriage.”*

*“It’s really regressive that we’ve almost re-adopted gender stereotyping and almost turned it into a science.

“We all know going through puberty is not a pleasant time and some girls will feel very uncomfortable with their bodies. And the fact this movement is encouraging them to think, ‘Well, you might not really be a girl’ in childhood, I just think is so dangerous. And we just need to give children the chance to grow up.”*

Yes. 100% this.

Jackie, you speak sense.

picklemewalnuts · 12/11/2021 12:54

Some of us are set in our ways, linguistically. I can remember being very confused about 'husband' and 'wife'- if both were men, how do you know which should be the bride, etc. I quite literally couldn't conceive of two grooms or two brides.

I'm well aware how ridiculous that sounds! Times have changed. It did confuse me at the time- my brain was not flexible enough to understand the change in language.

ScrollingLeaves · 12/11/2021 12:54

“CatherinaJTV

so is being against marriage equality something we should appreciate? In my book, that is nothing positive...“

CatherinaITV
I am glad Peter Tachell isn’t in her job even if he did vote for gay marriage and she didn’t.

picklemewalnuts · 12/11/2021 12:52

Being against gay marriage isn't necessarily an anti gay stance- although it can be.

If you believe the definition of marriage is a union between a man and a woman, then same sex marriage is a contradiction in terms. Many people who are against same sex marriage are perfectly happy with civil partnerships.

It isn't a hill I'd die on, but I can understand the linguistic issue people have with it.

NecessaryScene · 12/11/2021 12:47

The appreciation is for being in favour of women's equality - something that's exceedingly rare.

We're faced with people who think there should be no female-only provision in rape crisis services, and that lesbians are bigots. (Far worse views than I've ever heard attributed to her.)

It's all hands on deck against them, frankly, to balance the playing field, and she seems to be one of the strongest female advocates at the moment.

Did you have some other perfect female-supporting candidate in mind?

CatherinaJTV · 12/11/2021 12:35

so is being against marriage equality something we should appreciate? In my book, that is nothing positive...

ScrollingLeaves · 12/11/2021 12:32

Following those tweets I saw in a newspaper clip someone posted how skewed and dangerous Peter Tachell’s views are.

By was of justifying child sexual abuse, he mentions how in a certain tribe the older warriors have sex with the young boys who then grow up to be fine.

There was a recent thread about Afghan children being sold, and it came up that Afghan war lords have little boys to rape and to dance for them, and some police officials have tiny boys for sex. In the U.K. surely we would see that as abuse? Or not?, Peter Tachell?

I am thankful to Jackie Doyle, and wonder how he thinks anyone should listen to him.

Jackie Doyle Price appointed to W&E Committee

ChristinaXYZ · 12/11/2021 11:55

Oh that's excellent. I get depressed whenever I think about Caroline Noakes. Great that J D-P will be there too now.

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ScreamingMeMe · 11/11/2021 19:45

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Tory MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who’s spent years opposing LGBT+ rights, joins equalities committee

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Tory MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who’s spent years opposing LGBT+ rights, joins equalities committee
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Tory MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who voted against same-sex marriage and thinks trans rights are “regressive”, has been quietly appointed to parliament’s Women and Equalities Committee.

The committee’s role is to hold the Government Equalities Office to account on issues of expenditure, administration and policy, and it is made up of cross-party MPs.

According to her parliament profile, Doyle-Price was appointed was appointed to the committee on 2 November, however neither she nor any member of the committee has publicly acknowledged her new role.

She appears to have replaced Nicola Richards, the Conservative MP for West Bromwich East who left the committee on 2 November. Her office told PinkNews she “regrettably left the Women and Equalities Select Committee because of time constraints”.

PinkNews has approached the Women and Equalities Committee for comment.

Jackie Doyle-Price has an extensive history of anti-LGBT+ comments
Jackie Doyle-Price has made no secret of her opposition to LGBT+ rights during her political career.

In 2013, the MP for Thurrock voted against marriage equality, and later abstained from a vote on extending same-sex marriage to Northern Ireland. To this day, she continues to defend her stance.

Last year, despite literally voting against equality for same-sex couples, she declared: “Darlings, I have always supported equality for same-sex couples.

“I don’t support the state interfering with religious sacraments. All civil marriages should be styled civil unions. That’s what informed my vote on same-sex marriage.”

Doyle-Price has attempted in recent years to style herself as a defender of lesbians by joining the “gender critical” anti-trans rights movement.

PinkNews | Latest lesbian, gay, bi and trans news | LGBT+ news

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Tory MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who’s spent years opposing LGBT+ rights, joins equalities committee
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Jackie Doyle-Price, Tory MP for Thurrock. (Getty/ Rob Stothard)

Tory MP Jackie Doyle-Price, who voted against same-sex marriage and thinks trans rights are “regressive”, has been quietly appointed to parliament’s Women and Equalities Committee.

The committee’s role is to hold the Government Equalities Office to account on issues of expenditure, administration and policy, and it is made up of cross-party MPs.

According to her parliament profile, Doyle-Price was appointed to the committee on 2 November, however neither she nor any member of the committee has publicly acknowledged her new role.

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She appears to have replaced Nicola Richards, the Conservative MP for West Bromwich East who left the committee on 2 November. Her office told PinkNews she “regrettably left the Women and Equalities Select Committee because of time constraints”.

PinkNews has approached the Women and Equalities Committee for comment.

Jackie Doyle-Price has an extensive history of anti-LGBT+ comments
Jackie Doyle-Price has made no secret of her opposition to LGBT+ rights during her political career.

In 2013, the MP for Thurrock voted against marriage equality, and later abstained from a vote on extending same-sex marriage to Northern Ireland. To this day, she continues to defend her stance.

Last year, despite literally voting against equality for same-sex couples, she declared: “Darlings, I have always supported equality for same-sex couples.

“I don’t support the state interfering with religious sacraments. All civil marriages should be styled civil unions. That’s what informed my vote on same-sex marriage.”

Doyle-Price has attempted in recent years to style herself as a defender of lesbians by joining the “gender critical” anti-trans rights movement.

In 2020, in an appearance on the podcast of Posie Parker, who has been banned from Twitter for “hateful conduct” and has given interviews to white nationalists, Doyle-Price described trans rights as “regressive” and gender-affirming healthcare as “dangerous”.

The MP, who has repeatedly pledged her support for the anti-trans pressure group LGB Alliance, said: “It’s really regressive that we’ve almost re-adopted gender stereotyping and almost turned it into a science.

“We all know going through puberty is not a pleasant time and some girls will feel very uncomfortable with their bodies. And the fact this movement is encouraging them to think, ‘Well, you might not really be a girl’ in childhood, I just think is so dangerous. And we just need to give children the chance to grow up.”

blah blah blah - I'm not copying the rest; it's a absolute ballache

www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/11/10/jackie-doyle-price-women-equalities-committee-lgbt/

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AnyOldPrion · 11/11/2021 19:41

Thanks for sharing. I must go and thank/congratulate her!

That’s lovely news for a Thursday night!