Woman's Hour now: BBC walking away from Stonewall

The head of Radio 4 is Mohit Bakaya. You can email [email protected] and tell him what you want. I've asked for the Nolan podcast to be broadcast on Radio 4 and I've also asked why Analysis and File on Four and Woman's Hour and other more probing programmes turned a blind eye to what's been going on. I think Radio 4, apart from a few people like Jenni Murray, Justin Webb and Sarah Montague who were senior enough to push it, has performed abysmally on this. Why should we trust anything it covers again? Makes me wonder what other horrors I know nothing about because they're too squeamish to touch them.

Shouldn’t it be a regulatory body that fulfils this role? Or perhaps checks that hr are fulfilling this role?

Just listened. 😃

Could hear the dinosaur roar 😃

Poor schlep having to Answer The Questions ... 😃

And the 'pregnant people' bit 😃

People are saying ' when did Emma peak' but isn't she doing what a good journalist should? That is, really question and challenge interviewees on political topics? Really hold them to account ( in the real meaning of 'holding to account' , i.e. get them to show whether they have a solid, evidence based, well thought through position;, rather than the Billy Bragg/ cancel culture form of 'holding to account' which means getting people sacked/ financially destroyed/ silenced/ ostracised when you disagree with them.)

"Well what was so wrong with the bbc they felt they needs to pay such a huge amount to an outside agency to influence their internal policy? "

Companies and organisations are often put under a lot of pressure to prove they are meeting requirements and laws. It's not enough to say they're doing it: they must provide shedloads of proof - usually paperwork - in order to achieve that shiny badge of honour that says they're accredited.

Not all Accreditation schemes are a waste of money, of course - some are essential for professional, well-trained staff.
This one seems to be a money-spinner and protection racket combined.

Thank you!

I wish so much that another series of W1A would be commissioned covering all this.

Brilliant! So pleasantly surprised by EB. Have sent positive feedback.

www.bbc.co.uk/contact/comments-feedback/#/Your%20comment

Is the Beeb monitoring this board now? Have we vipers actually got some power? That would be good

I hope Emma will be safe from threats and that her job is also safe.

I want to show support. What page do I need to go to in order to do this?

It's on Sounds now. But look how the interview isn't mentioned on the snapshot

They’ve updated it and it’s front and centre now.

[quote CatsOperatingInGangs]This might help get the Stonewall out of the Beeb.
www.vice.com/en/article/n7nv97/lgbtq-employees-are-quitting-the-bbc-because-they-say-its-transphobic[/quote]
Did you see who wrote that? Ben Hunte. So it's not going to be impartial and it's unlikely to be 100% based in fact. This is what the allegation is based on:

'“I know someone that walked out the other day over the article. I know someone else that left a couple of months ago. I know about eight trans people that left the organisation in the past 12 months because they don’t believe that the BBC is impartial anymore,” said one current BBC employee on the call.'

An anonymous person at the BBC says they know someone who walked out (does that actually mean left or just walked out of the building?) after the article about lesbians being groomed by male-sexed people was published. A few other LGBTQ+ people have left months ago. That's it. An unnamed source, unverified allegations. The BBC is a massive employer with loads of folk on short-term contract and a high turnaround of employees.

Last week the TRAs were squealing at the BBC for publishing Angela Wild's findings about lesbians being pressured into relationships with male-bodied people on the grounds of the scope and impartiality of Angela's research — which was never claimed to be rigorous or definitive. Now here's Ben Hunte making allegations on the basis that and anonymous someone he knows at the BBC has told him something unverified.

Now the person who has changed his tune is Stephen Nolan. He uninvited Nic Williams when Veronica Ivy refused to be in the same studio as her. After a lot of complaining, he eventually offered Nic Williams some ridiculous time to come on which wasn't at all convenient for her.

Well what was so wrong with the bbc they felt they needs to pay such a huge amount to an outside agency to influence their internal policy?

Why couldn’t they understand the equality act themselves?

Why couldn’t the treat lgbt+ employees with dignity and without discrimination without an outside agency telling them how to behave?

That alone raises some pretty significant questions.

BloodinGutters, exactly. I say this about any organisation, it's the easiest thing in the world NOT to discriminate, why the fuck should any reputable organisation need a lobbying group to tell them how to do so.

Thank you Emma, hugely impressive!

BBC finally decides to start adulting. Cue tantrums from toddler employees

The anger is always misplaced Isn't it.

Everything is the fault of an employer who drew a line. Now let's remember that the ministry of justice places male bodied rapists in womens prisons and still only made it to number five in the 2020 top 100 employers, so you you have to ask just what would get you higher at that point.

And never the fault of someone who misrepresents the law,.disregards all 8 other legally protected characteristics , and uses false suicide stats to do so.

The beef should be with the lies and false promises not someone refusing to pay another penny for bad advise

Always good to hear an excellent interviewer cut through the waffle.
I have sent congratulations to WH via the BBC comments page.

BBC finally decides to start adulting. Cue tantrums from toddler employees.

Glad Ben Hunte got a mention. Unbelievable that he was seemingly given license to write anything he wanted, instead of upholding basic journalistic standards. All part of the 'opinion writer' trend in journalism, but if you want to write in that style, perhaps don't work at the BBC?
I'm sure there was fear and hesitation from senior staff around challenging his content, which is a farcical situation - I imagine what's happening inside the BBC is a bit like the recent NY Times article about older staff being scared of younger all-knowing grads www.nytimes.com/2021/10/28/business/gen-z-workplace-culture.html

deeply deeply complicated matters only because Stonewall misrepresented the EA.

Emma has been GC for a long time, how do I know this, because people she associates with are GC (not divulging). Had she been shackled, yes of course but once the EHRC confirmed that women should be able to debate, then it's open season.

This is WOMAN's HOUR ffs of course we should discuss and in any way EB choses. For me, it sounds like EB has had that script ready for a while. She is good and have always admired even though I don't always agree. I listened to her take apart a politician on Radio5 and I wouldn't be interviewed by her for all of Fanny Facebooks billions