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What union can I join that isn’t totally beholden to Stonewall or similar?

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Rainbowshine · 10/11/2021 15:57

Just as the title says really, I want to join a union but all of the larger general ones that would be relevant for my work are enthralled with the Stonewall ethos or similar. I would like to join one that would not have a complete meltdown at the prospect of supporting me if I needed to challenge the overly zealous wokeness and pronoun-zombie mentality and actions that are emerging there. Any suggestions please?

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donquixotedelamancha · 10/11/2021 23:47

Community Union has some useful looking stuff, but they have a post on their site with this gem

Oh FFS. So their whole pitch is being apolitical but apparently they can't manage that.

CousinKrispy · 10/11/2021 23:27

Community Union has some useful looking stuff, but they have a post on their site with this gem:

"We’ve seen Stonewall, the UK’s flagship LGBT+ charity, face a concerted and well-funded attack on its very existence – a cause now seemingly backed by the UK Government and our “equalities” minister Liz Truss. Powerful figures across the world have sought to start, stir up and perpetuate culture wars, particularly aimed at trans people, that have caused real hurt to our community and given licence to bigots to spread hatred."

donquixotedelamancha · 10/11/2021 21:15

Thanks for your thoughts, yes it would need to be TUC affiliated and a “proper” union for me to be allowed to bring a rep into any formal meeting I may find myself in.

Doesn't need to be TUC affiliated, the two I suggested upthread aren't. What sector are you? Most have more than one possible union.

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Rainbowshine · 10/11/2021 21:00

Thanks for your thoughts, yes it would need to be TUC affiliated and a “proper” union for me to be allowed to bring a rep into any formal meeting I may find myself in. The recognised union that has negotiating rights are run by TRA’s who have decided that our workplace has to put Trans rights before anyone else’s. No other views are allowed to exist and non compliance is judged as transphobic and must be annihilated. It’s just awful.

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donquixotedelamancha · 10/11/2021 19:30

Bitter as my union is the UCU and I'm pondering whether to leave

My sympathy. Unions can be great but they seem like utterly useless women-hating dickheads.

donquixotedelamancha · 10/11/2021 19:29

Definitely join the Free Speech Union. It only costs £50 to join, they will represent you straight away (unlike other unions), and they don't care about your politics.

Yes but they aren't actually a union. OP presumably wants protection for her employment rights.

Not all unions are captured, OP, but if you can't stomach the ones in your industry then try a politically neutral union like the United Independent Union or Community Union.

Sunkisses · 10/11/2021 18:05

Definitely join the Free Speech Union. It only costs £50 to join, they will represent you straight away (unlike other unions), and they don't care about your politics. All the other unions have been 100% captured, and will be more likely to attack you than defend you on women's rights. The FSU have been incredibly effective on lots of cases and have lots of caseworkers. Lisa Keough, the Scottish student who was thrown off her law course for saying only women have vaginas, could not have spoken more highly of their defence of her.
freespeechunion.org/

EishetChayil · 10/11/2021 17:14

@DisappearingGirl

Haha. I think this may have the same answer as what left-wing political party can I vote for or what left-leaning newspaper can I read.

Tumbleweed I suspect! (Happy to be proved wrong. Bitter as my union is the UCU and I'm pondering whether to leave)

Morning Star and the Communist Party are really the only ones.
DisappearingGirl · 10/11/2021 17:14

Haha. I think this may have the same answer as what left-wing political party can I vote for or what left-leaning newspaper can I read.

Tumbleweed I suspect! (Happy to be proved wrong. Bitter as my union is the UCU and I'm pondering whether to leave)