The BBC announces it is leaving Stonewall

Well done Stephen Nolan on investigating this issue with stonewall.

Nolan raised and debated (yesterday on his morning show) the new proposed legislation in NI about ending period poverty (fab!) but no mention of women, girls, females and apparently men can have periods too. The SDLP (NI's equivalent to Labour) will lose a lot of votes over this ridiculous proposal.

www.newsletter.co.uk/health/boys-have-periods-too-says-sdlp-mla-as-he-launches-gender-neutral-tampon-bill-3415558

As others have said, well done Nolan and Thompson.

On the money from the DofE, DD's school is a Stonewall Champion. Which I assume means they have to pay them something, and yet more money gone from an education budget, but I can't find Stonewall's price list or going rates anywhere.

Stonewall's statement is so non-reflective. For what it is worth, of the 3 bullet points made about discrimination, perhaps we might substitute middle aged woman for the sector under discussion. And perhaps we might also consider that life would be much easier for all of us, if we all stopped taking offence so easily and consider individuals on their merits.

-- Almost one in five women over age 45 have been the target of negative comments or conduct from work colleagues because they're middle aged.

-- More than a third of middle aged women have hidden or disguised that they are middle aged at work because they were afraid of discrimination.

-- Almost one in five middle aged women who were looking for work said they were discriminated against because of their age and sex while trying to get a job.

Aaaand - meltdown by the usual suspects in 5, 4, 3...

At least Involve champion women in industry.

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Good. They couldn't in all conscience remain connected to them, after that Nolan podcast. Bloody well done to Nolan and Thompson.

As for that self-serving load of manipulative drivel that stonewall put out. For fuck's sake. Don't they get it yet? Everyone knows that they don't even know what an L, G or B person is. And they include cross dressers and transvestites under the T.

Gone are the days where they can hide behind homosexual rights.

At Stonewall, we stand for LGBTQ+ people everywhere. We imagine a world where all of us are free to be ourselves and can live our lives to the full. We face rising intolerance degrading our hard-won rights. But we won't be silenced. Not until all of us are free to be proud, free to be loved, free to be together, free to be who we are.

Course you do, Malcolm.

According to the Pink News article on this..... The BBC Director General Tim Davie "announced that the BBC will now work with INvolve UK on LGBT+ inclusion in the workplace going forward. INvolve UK is a diversity and inclusion consultancy group set up by Suki Sandhu."

This seems to be the website www.involvepeople.org/about/

Not sure if they will be any better or not.

About time too.

well said flying. that explains where BBB's got the lie from

Beardy bros having a meltdown saying LGBT rights are being rolled back, all the while ignoring LGBT ppl disagreeing. BBB's blinkered beardy bros

This bit in the Stonewall statement:

It is shocking that organisations are being pressured into rolling back support for LGBTQ+ employees.

is an actual lie. Organisations are not being pressured to roll back support for employees.

Organisations are now wary of being associated with a controversial pressure group. Where's the evidence that withdrawing from a Stonewall scheme results in less support in the workplace?

Where's the evidence being in a Stonewall scheme makes an employer better for an LGB employee to work in, anyway? Do we take Stonewall's word for it that their product improves working conditions?
My employer sounds much less awful than Floral's and has never been part of their schemes.

Brilliant news!

Ha! Nolan did the trick then! About bloody time.

Some thanks may be due to Nadine Dorries, Secretary of State for DCMS. This is her tweet in 2018. Afaik she was the second MP, after David TC Davis, to start openly questioning the madness.

twitter.com/nadinedorries/status/1068477170526445568?lang=en

Good news on the BBC.

I was trying to quote another post. It didn't work. 🤔

I didn't realise they got so much money from the DofE. It is disgraceful. That money could be used for so much. Education is underfunded as it is

It's now on the bbc website
www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-59232736

I notice the article links to Nolan's podcasts, which is good.

This will be why, as a lesbian in a Stonewalled organization, I am afraid to speak in certain work environments where the BBC article about lesbians being coerced by TW was discussed with the Stonewall line of 'liars, not significant, lesbians have penises too'? Where my complaints to D&I team members are ignored while they fawn over non-binary ID males? Where any slight dissent about Stonewall policies is pounced on, and pejorative terms about women and sexual boasts are waved through as long as it's couched in 'Inclusive, LGBTQ+' terms?

That fucking sucks. It's even more enraging that all the unions are useless on this subject too.

Excellent news

I'm genuinely amazed they've done this, though pleased of course, but I'm sorry to say my first thought is what else is going on behind the scenes/coming their way ... in other words what the real motivation is for distancing themselves

Because experience teaches that the obvious answer isn't always the only one, especially with organisations like this

This is excellent news. Since all public bodies need to remain impartial, they should all at this point be following the BBC’s lead.