The BBC announces it is leaving Stonewall

In my head sometimes, I'm a Jane Austen heroine in a sprigged muslin gown, but nobody is obliged to throw a ball for me. Pity ...

Email d of e. Put pressure on.

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The BBC finally dumps Stonewall
No other lobbying organisation, particularly ones that refuses to even discuss differences of opinion on matters of public importance, should ever get that close again.
unherd.com/thepost/the-bbc-finally-dumps-stonewall/

Interesting statement from Stonewall.

"Many of the arguments against trans people today are simply recycled homophobia from the 80s and 90s. We all remember being told gay people were predators and lesbians were a threat in single-sex spaces."

This approach is highlighted perfectly in the Nolan podcast. Stonewall has deliberately played on society's collective guilt about decades of homophobia, liberally sprinkling it all over the trans rights issue. Anyone who had looked at what gender critical belief means would know it has absolutely fuck all to do with homophobia or transphobia.

Also I personally was never, ever told anything about gay people being a threat growing up in the 80's/90's so "we all remember" is a bit rich.

Yay!! 🥳

Predictable strop from the organisation themselves, not coughing up the cash for a racket who misrepresent the law now equals an attack on the LGBTQ+ community apparently 🤨

And of course the most important letter got a special point made just for them.....

But we all know who they mostly mean when they talk about 'organised attacks', it's those pesky women talking (how dare they!), standing together (fetch the smelling salts!) and saying NO.

At Stonewall, we stand for LGBTQ+ people everywhere.

Except all the female homosexual ones, the male homosexual ones, all the ones who won't do what we say, and all those who see LGB as a sexual orientation instead of a political position. So no. You don't stand for LGBT+ people everywhere. You stand solely as a political lobby group with a very particular political agenda that excludes others with other views and beliefs and attempts to remove their rights, the LGBT ones included.

We all remember being told gay people were predators and lesbians were a threat in single-sex spaces. That wasn’t true of lesbians, bi and gay people then, and it isn’t true of trans people now.

Absolute bollocks that just avoids the reality. Single sex spaces cannot exist if people of the other sex use them. The risks of mixed sex spaces to females is fact, not just some random prejudice, and this again just totally excludes and discriminates against females who require single sex spaces or can't access any spaces at all.

Hear hear

The Media Show just started on Radio 4. This is a big breaking story, it's smack bang in the middle of their brief, they've had time to line it up over the past few hours, and they seem to be averting their gaze. Perhaps they might find some time to discuss it later on.

About time schools withdrew from Stonewall too.

This news comes in the wake of organised attacks on workplace inclusion that extend far beyond the Diversity Champions programme. It is shocking that organisations are being pressured into rolling back support for LGBTQ+ employees.

It is not 'pressure' you absolute muppets, its the sharing of evidence and facts that is making multiple big players flee realising what they're about to be held accountable for having done under your lead.

And no, facts do not make LGBT+ people suffer.

Inclusion matters.

Then stop actively removing inclusion from women and girls by excluding and marginalising the ones who for multiple reasons of diversity cannot access mixed sex provisions . See 'absolute muppets'.

At Stonewall, we stand for LGBTQ+ people everywhere.

Except all the female homosexual ones, the male homosexual ones, all the ones who won't do what we say, and all those who see LGB as a sexual orientation instead of a political position. So no. You don't stand for LGBT+ people everywhere. You stand solely as a political lobby group with a very particular political agenda that excludes others with other views and beliefs and attempts to remove their rights, the LGBT ones included.

We all remember being told gay people were predators and lesbians were a threat in single-sex spaces. That wasn’t true of lesbians, bi and gay people then, and it isn’t true of trans people now.

Absolute bollocks that just avoids the reality. Single sex spaces cannot exist if people of the other sex use them. The risks of mixed sex spaces to females is fact, not just some random prejudice, and this again just totally excludes and discriminates against females who require single sex spaces or can't access any spaces at all.

We imagine a world where all of us are free to be ourselves and can live our lives to the full.

Again, 'all of us' not including females or homosexuals, who are definitely not free to be themselves or live their lives to the full, but to hand their own rights and access to society over to others.

They should be done under the trades discrimination act for that lot of hogwash. The game's up Stonewall.

Fanbloodytastic; I might just cough up for the licence fee now!

Media watchdog Ofcom, the Equality Human Rights Commission and the government's Equalities Office and Ministry of Justice are among the other bodies to have pulled out.

That is a pretty impressive group of heavy hitters, there, who have withdrawn from the scheme. And increasingly, citing issues to do with impartiality and dubious legal advice, rather than the first few orgs to leave, who muttered something about cost savings.

Fantastic news.

About bloody time.

Same as it ever was 🙄

Result

Superb x

Invovle has a whole section on women, so that's an improvement for a start

The only specifics about what and who they even mean by “diversity and inclusion” I could find was references to micro-aggressions, white privilege and white fragility”.

I am not yet convinced this organisation has a very nuanced understanding of any of the 9 PCs of the EA, or how to eradicate discrimination.

www.involvepeople.org/training-workshops/

Thank god the BBC is out. It’s time!

Sorry. Spelling, grammar and punctuation have deserted me today.

I never donate to CIN. I am appalled at some of the people they give viewers hard earned cash to. I choose my charities very carefully, do my research and donate directly. I wish everyone would do that.

This is very good news, but very overdue.

The BBC is meant to be independent, and in the past it has been proud of criticising the government. Yet it handed over a chunk of editorial control to a very controversial and divisive lobby group: unbelievable.

For years, it allowed Stonewall to dictate the tone and content of BBC reporting on issues in which Stonewall was deeply involved. If no one in BBC management realised this issue affected women's rights and children's safety, they must have been deliberately keeping their eyes shut. They have done huge damage to the BBC's worldwide reputation.