The BBC announces it is leaving Stonewall

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Especially now the bbc can report on it.

Wonder if Nancy will hang around for the Allison Bailey court case. That's going to be absolutely toxic for Stonewall.

It is all stated as if it is factual....on a spectrum....and.....assigned at birth.
Am I being unfair?

Nancy Kelley is having a good year isn't she? O see a good old fashioned 'stepping down to focus on my family' and a new broom by January.

She must be spotting feathers that Ruth - who is responsible for all of this - got to swan off with all the honours.

Did no-one actually sit them down and say, er, there are an awful lot more homosexual men and women, than there are cross dressers, transvestites and HSTS's.

I commented elsewhere wrt lesbians but if we lump "queer identities" in with all the types of people covered by Stonewall's "trans umbrella", I believe actual LGB people, especially out LGB people, are outnumbered.

I complained to the BBC a really long time ago now about their choosing (in their News Style Guide) to define "homosexuality" to mean same gender attraction (and they define gender the TRA way). I've received repeated delays to them responding to me, with a couple of invitations for me to complain about this to Ofcom. They clearly want to pass the buck. I'm now wondering whether they'll actually acknowledge that their definition of homosexuality is wrong? That would be something.
I feel really strongly about this attempt to change the English language (the dictionary definition will be the next target) to expunge acceptance of the existence of same sex attraction. It's despicable.

About time!

We all remember being told gay people were predators and lesbians were a threat in single-sex spaces.

Like others here, I don't remember this at all. And I'm remembering back to the 1960s. I remember some mockery of effeminate gay men eg in sitcoms. Neither gay men or lesbians were ever described to me as a threat.

Why would they be? Gay men didn't enter women's single-sex spaces. And neither they nor lesbians were known for assaulting women.

It's having males in single-sex spaces that is a real danger to women and children. As we are finding out in real life now.

I am so pleased with this news, however it just should never, ever have got to this.

Hear hear.

Reaction of relief mixed with absolute fury.

How can this have been allowed to happen? Impartial reporting is supposed to be the basic. The BBC allowed itself to be dominated by Stonewall and their reporting on the issue has been slanted for years. What effect has this had on the situation of questioning children/ lesbian spaces and women in general?
Massive step forward but alot to answer for.

Same for Offsted, D of E, how dare they have accepted this organisation to dominate their policies with this snowballing downwards to children?

So much respect for all the women that have led the charge on this, applying pressure and being villified. Losing careers, reputations and friends. I am so pleased with this news, however it just should never, ever have got to this.

The BBC article was on the homepage when I saw the news here about an hour ago. It is now buried part-way down the Entertainment news page - are they hoping no one will notice?

There's a membership fee. Staff time. And fees for extra 'training' and conferences.

I’m over the moon about this. As a lesbian I’m disgusted at the way gay people and women in general are being treated. Stonewall do not represent me, they view my sexual orientation as bigoted and fetishist. Now let’s get them out of the NHS and schools.

Excellent news. When will everyone realise that just about nobody is part of the mythical LGBTQ+ community. We are either lesbian or gay, or bisexual, or heterosexual , have a strange sense of self or like dressing up.

- into meaning 'ONLY those who believe in this particular political agenda and ideology', and this is the ONLY thing they have in common.

They are actively excluding LGBT+ people who do not share this one partisan political view while at the same time claiming to speak for all of them.

This is correct.

They are actually appropriating the word homosexuality, turning it into something different, but pretending it's the same in order to push the 'something different'.

It should be illegal.

Homosexuality has a legal definition, and you cannot change it to push transgenderism.

This was the biggest single scandal, in my opinion, of the Nolan podcast.

The complete re-definition of homosexual, to mean what the fuck you like, as long as you can push transgenderism by appropriating it.

I can't help wondering what the fuck they were thinking?

Did no-one actually sit them down and say, er, there are an awful lot more homosexual men and women, than there are cross dressers, transvestites and HSTS's.

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I've done this.

I'll probably submit a separate comment making the point about BBC CiN giving money to controversial groups who promote controversial gender identity ideology to kids. It's not right, whatever your party politics.

Also I personally was never, ever told anything about gay people being a threat growing up in the 80's/90's so "we all remember" is a bit rich.

Ditto. Born early 80s so I'm bang on the right age for this. I was never told to see lesbians and gay men as a threat, and I don't have any recollection of that being the general feeling in the room either.

Really pleased to see this but how sad we've got to this place, where an organisation set up to defend the rights of gay people ends up binned because they chased the money.

They should have stuck to sexuality -I foresee a vacuum shortly and hope that LGBA have the funds and infastructure to fill it.

I checked the children in need donor page and couldn't see mermaids on it when I searched, hopefully they've been ditched but someone might know better

Having dewomaned woman
and delesbianed lesbians
Stonewall are now de LGBT+ing LGBT+s

Notice the 'we speak for all' bit.

Those who disagree with them are just disappeared from being LGBT+

Politicians and journalists will you please catch on.