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ScreamingMeMe · 11/11/2021 10:40

The Young Minds website does the same.

Oh crap, really? I've supported Young Minds several times Sad

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 10:14

Stonewall leaving the BBC is being discussed on Womans hour
4 mins in. Interview with

Live
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_fourfm

Catch up
www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/b007qlvb

(What must Jenni Murray make of it after what happened to her?)

WinterTrees · 11/11/2021 10:06

Just came to see if there was a thread nauticant

A good introduction to the issue so far. Actually helpful for people who may not know what this is all about.

nauticant · 11/11/2021 10:05

The BBC might be a bit shy about reporting this but Emma Barnett is looking into this on Woman's Hour.

Needmoresleep · 11/11/2021 09:55

What is the evidence that Carrie is a prominent Stonewall handmaiden?

Stonewall events are standard at Party Conferences. She stood in for elected politicians, and did not mention trans. But that is all.

(She is also friendly with a key Stonewall activist within the Tory party, though I forget his name, but equally is friendly with Nimco Ali and Sajid Javid, the latter seemingly interested in reversing some of the Stonewall stuff in the health service.)

bellinisurge · 11/11/2021 09:47

Angela Raynor is so far into it, she'll struggle to pull back. I expect a few "well, I didn't mean THAT " from her and Lisa Nandy when the BBC finally challenges them on this.

I wonder, though, if they will dare to because they will also have to go after Johnson on it as well, what with his wife being a prominent Stonewall handmaiden. And we all know how cowardly they are going after Johnson.

Alektopteryx · 11/11/2021 09:39

@TravisFountain

Angela is one whose adherence to the ideology I could easily ascribe to the 'naked self interest' category, tbh.

Yeah, I agree.

SirSamuelVimes · 11/11/2021 09:25

@McDuffy

A senior male colleague of mine (with significant policy influence) told me that I had made him totally rethink the issue. We take what we learn here into the real world and it makes a difference! Thanks, wise ones.
That's amazing - well done!
Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/11/2021 09:20

I assume that Angela rayner is one of those left wing ppl who genuinely cannot understand why anyone could/would vote Tory and believes ppl who do to be either nasty or stupid. In that scenario anything a conservative government does is inherently wrong. She believes the Tories appointed Davie to the BBC to undermine the coverage of trans issues and the BBC leaving the stonewall scheme just reconfirms her view

It would not occur to her to think that no charity, no matter who they are or what they do, should ever be above scrutiny.

TravisFountain · 11/11/2021 09:03

Angela is one whose adherence to the ideology I could easily ascribe to the 'naked self interest' category, tbh.

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 08:56

Angela Raynor - 'a self identifying politician'

Fariha31 · 11/11/2021 08:50

@TeamRex

Why are these labour MPs siding with Stonewall? Nadia Whittome MP Zarah Sultana MP Angela Rayner MP

It's depressing isn't it? They are too stupid to understand that the BBC cannot report on lgbt issues impartially if they are taking their rules from Stonewall.

They obviously haven't listened to the podcast or had anyone summarise the key points to them.

From my, limited, experiance, I think they are not 'allowed' to listen to anything that goes against Genderism. They are relativly young people caught up in a movement that demands idological purity with extream punishments for those who dont chant the mantra loudly and often. Also being ambitious young women the pressure is on them even more than others. I would imagine if it got round that any of them had listened to the whole or even some of the Nolan report their staffers would be baying for their blood.

Angel Rayner may be the exception as she is in very high office but seems to have hitched her waggon to this and would lose so much face if she reversed ferret now.

ChoosandChipsandSealingWax · 11/11/2021 08:44

Yup! Yet another one radicalised by Mumsnet here! Thank you, vipers! Flowers

It was the Girlguides that did it for me. Thank you @katiealcock Flowers and best of luck with the court case.

Sidehustle99 · 11/11/2021 08:41

This is an amazing achievement - what a powerful force. So proud of the women in this group.

McDuffy · 11/11/2021 08:37

A senior male colleague of mine (with significant policy influence) told me that I had made him totally rethink the issue. We take what we learn here into the real world and it makes a difference! Thanks, wise ones.

ArabellaScott · 11/11/2021 08:34

@SirSamuelVimes

Three cheers for the Mumsnet radicalisation portal! No wonder the TRAs hate us so much.
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 08:21

3 cheers for Mumsnet AND all the women & groups who made it happen, including:

@fairplaywomen
@WomansPlaceUK
@BluskyeAllison
@jk_rowling
@bindelj
@SexMattersOrg
@ALLIANCELGB
@Transgendertrd
@Docstockk
@HJoyceGender
@SafeSchools_UK
@ForwomenScot
@janeclarejones

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/11/2021 08:07

Yep Angela rayner et al demonstrating with monotonous regularity why Labour won’t be governing anytime soon

twitter.com/angelarayner/status/1458468230733914118?s=21

treguffin · 11/11/2021 08:07

GB News is nothing to be proud of though tbh.

Grumpyosaurus · 11/11/2021 08:00

@SirSamuelVimes

Three cheers for the Mumsnet radicalisation portal! No wonder the TRAs hate us so much.
Three cheers indeed. I've learned so much on this board.
SirSamuelVimes · 11/11/2021 07:42

Three cheers for the Mumsnet radicalisation portal! No wonder the TRAs hate us so much.

FreeBritnee · 11/11/2021 07:40

[quote MiladyBerserko]Women of Mumsnet, take a Fucking Bow

mobile.twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1458499166351601676[/quote]
You lot peaked me. So take a bow indeed.

TeamRex · 11/11/2021 07:35

Why are these labour MPs siding with Stonewall?
Nadia Whittome MP
Zarah Sultana MP
Angela Rayner MP

It's depressing isn't it? They are too stupid to understand that the BBC cannot report on lgbt issues impartially if they are taking their rules from Stonewall.

They obviously haven't listened to the podcast or had anyone summarise the key points to them.

FindTheTruth · 11/11/2021 07:26

Why are these labour MPs siding with Stonewall?
Nadia Whittome MP
Zarah Sultana MP
Angela Rayner MP

It's weird seeing female labour MP's uncritically calling the BBC's withdrawal an "attack on Stonewall" and human rights, akin to racism, apartheid etc etc.

We know that women, including many lesbians, have raised concerns with them yet their tweets in the last 20 hours show they're not listening

WarriorN · 11/11/2021 06:10

The problem is many see lgbt as a homogeneous group. So won't understand this. (listen to Nolan!)

It's the T that is the issue.

I suppose it remains to Be seen if people will work that out.

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