Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Campaign in Scotland

161 replies

Cismyfatarse · 09/11/2021 21:21

Please, if you live in Scotland, get the message to your MSPs.

forwomenscotland.eaction.org.uk/MSP

Follow the link and it is all very easy. If you can share far and wide, that would be great.

OP posts:
ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 19:38

@itsanotherfineday

I got the same reply from Lorna Slater, within five minutes of sending my reply. She has pronouns in her signature and the email was sent by her assistant who also has pronouns. I guess I reply to say she won't get my vote
To be frank, she doesn't need it. They weren't elected on the basis of lots of votes.

Under 35,000 votes. Not sure what %age of the electorate that is, a bit under 1%?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/scottish-election-results-2021-scotland-map-snp-nicola-sturgeon/

Mantlemoose · 10/11/2021 18:27

Done

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/11/2021 18:12

Which human rights? The rights of rapists to be housed in women's prisons? The right of children to access off-label medication and surgery to treat 'dysphoria'? The right of male doctors to treat female patients who've specifically asked for a female HCP, even in cases like care for rape victims?

You can't just invent rights as if any stated desire magically becomes a 'right'.

It's just vapid, thought-terminating cliches.

terryleather · 10/11/2021 18:02

I will do this but want to do a bit of tweeking to the text.

I don't see the point of sending it to the fudmeister Patrick Harvie as I will combust if I get that patronising arsewash back in reply that LS has farted out - they don't give a fuck about women, that much is plain.

doorornottodoor · 10/11/2021 17:12

I got that reply from Lorna Skater too. Awful! So patronising. So much for listening to your constituents. Shut down. I am angry Angry

itsanotherfineday · 10/11/2021 15:10

I got the same reply from Lorna Slater, within five minutes of sending my reply. She has pronouns in her signature and the email was sent by her assistant who also has pronouns.
I guess I reply to say she won't get my vote

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 13:22

Came as a shock to me, too, barra!

weebarra · 10/11/2021 13:15

Same response here from Jeremy Balfour (Con). I can't believe I'm agreeing with the response of a Tory, while living in Scotland. Oh well.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 10/11/2021 12:46

I have added a post on Scotsnet.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 10/11/2021 12:37

Scottish Labour said:
'Thank you for your email. Please accept this automated response as confirmation that your email has been received.'

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 10/11/2021 12:35

To be fair it actually said:

'My office receives a large volume of correspondence and may not be able to respond to you immediately, however I or a member of my staff will get back to you as soon as is practicable.

Parliamentary rules only allow me to assist individuals who reside in the constituency I represent of XXXX. To ensure there is no delay in responding to your email please provide your full postal address. Alternatively please re-send your email with your address if this was omitted.

dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 10/11/2021 12:33

@ArabellaScott

If any SNP members or indeed MSPs are reading, I do not consider it adequate representation nor fulfilling of your duty to represent your constituents to send back an auto responder that says 'sorry, we're too busy'.

It's not just this issue, either. It's across the board. Unacceptable whatever the issue/subject.

I just got sorry 'too busy' from SNP one.
dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 10/11/2021 12:33

@Lils11

Done.

Have had a response back from Jeremy R Balfour, the MSP for Lothians (Conservative) already stating ...these consultation responses confirm what we already knew – this is a sensitive topic and opinions are firmly split. We must protect women’s rights and take concerns that those rights are being eroded very seriously. For now, we await the details of this legislation and stand ready to scrutinise each aspect of it. The Scottish Conservatives will not stand by and allow this SNP-Green Government to push this legislation through Parliament without all parties’ concerns receiving due consideration. There must be a full and informed debate on this issue and that this can only truly be done once we see what legislation is being brought forward.

I have just had the same excellent response from my Tory MSPs as well.
ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 11:59

If any SNP members or indeed MSPs are reading, I do not consider it adequate representation nor fulfilling of your duty to represent your constituents to send back an auto responder that says 'sorry, we're too busy'.

It's not just this issue, either. It's across the board. Unacceptable whatever the issue/subject.

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 11:57

Tory MSPs have responded quickly with same response as above.

SNP MSPs have sent the usual auto-responder with 'sorry, we're too busy to respond to your emails' with one of them adding an additional 'please follow us on social media because we might respond generally on there'.

GrouchyKiwi · 10/11/2021 11:21

I've also received Lorna Slater's mealy-mouthed reply that addresses none of the issues raised. I am composing my reply.

Ratherly · 10/11/2021 11:12

Done.

That response from Lorna Slater, honestly!

Rhannion · 10/11/2021 11:07

@EdinburghFeminist

I’ve had a response back from one of the Greens:

Thank you for writing to me about your concerns.

Myself, and the Scottish Green Party, wholeheartedly support the rights of trans people including that of self-identification. Trans rights and women’s rights are not in conflict, as all humans have the same human rights. The human rights of minority groups should not be open to debate and interpretation, they should be accepted.

The Scottish Greens stand firmly for inclusive, intersectional feminism which recognises the intersectional nature of power which creates additional barriers for women facing multiple discriminations. You can read more about this here: greens.scot/womens-pledge.

In the recent cooperation agreement between the Scottish Greens and the Scottish Government we agreed to reform the Gender Recognition act to establish a more straightforward system for obtaining legal gender recognition for trans people. I believe that trans people should not have to go through a degrading, traumatic and intrusive process to be legally recognised in their gender.

I hope that you agree that we must do more to improve the lives of the trans community who have been the target of a hate campaign for the past few years.

Regards,
Lorna Slater MSP

Well that’s no surprise from her. Wee paddy, sturgeon and LS are a trinity of misogynists.
dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 10/11/2021 11:01

Done.

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 11:00

The human rights of minority groups should not be open to debate and interpretation, they should be accepted.

Which human rights? The rights of rapists to be housed in women's prisons? The right of children to access off-label medication and surgery to treat 'dysphoria'? The right of male doctors to treat female patients who've specifically asked for a female HCP, even in cases like care for rape victims?

You can't just invent rights as if any stated desire magically becomes a 'right'.

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 10:58

What a crap response from Lorna Slater.

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 10:56

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

ArabellaScott · 10/11/2021 10:56

Done, thank you.

I can anticipate the responses, but we will see.

EdinburghFeminist · 10/11/2021 10:49

I’ve had a response back from one of the Greens:

Thank you for writing to me about your concerns.

Myself, and the Scottish Green Party, wholeheartedly support the rights of trans people including that of self-identification. Trans rights and women’s rights are not in conflict, as all humans have the same human rights. The human rights of minority groups should not be open to debate and interpretation, they should be accepted.

The Scottish Greens stand firmly for inclusive, intersectional feminism which recognises the intersectional nature of power which creates additional barriers for women facing multiple discriminations. You can read more about this here: greens.scot/womens-pledge.

In the recent cooperation agreement between the Scottish Greens and the Scottish Government we agreed to reform the Gender Recognition act to establish a more straightforward system for obtaining legal gender recognition for trans people. I believe that trans people should not have to go through a degrading, traumatic and intrusive process to be legally recognised in their gender.

I hope that you agree that we must do more to improve the lives of the trans community who have been the target of a hate campaign for the past few years.

Regards,
Lorna Slater MSP

Lils11 · 10/11/2021 10:12

Done.

Have had a response back from Jeremy R Balfour, the MSP for Lothians (Conservative) already stating ...these consultation responses confirm what we already knew – this is a sensitive topic and opinions are firmly split. We must protect women’s rights and take concerns that those rights are being eroded very seriously. For now, we await the details of this legislation and stand ready to scrutinise each aspect of it. The Scottish Conservatives will not stand by and allow this SNP-Green Government to push this legislation through Parliament without all parties’ concerns receiving due consideration. There must be a full and informed debate on this issue and that this can only truly be done once we see what legislation is being brought forward.

Swipe left for the next trending thread