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Lush Binder Collection

267 replies

Sexnotgender · 08/11/2021 21:06

Assuming this is a way for predominantly children to circumvent parents and get their hands on a binder.

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foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:54

Just saw this kind of thing too, I had no idea so much of this stuff was out there:

www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a55546/how-to-bind-your-chest/

“If your partner loves you, they’ll love your decision to bind” Confused

When I was young Cosmopolitan was a feminist magazine! A bit sex-obsessed sure, but it was celebratory of women and body positive!

Why can’t these people see how they are reproducing practices and an ideology that is horrendously oppressive and misogynist? Why are younger women so taken in by it? I don’t understand it to be honest. I don’t understand how you could print articles like that and go along with this culture of self-harm and not recognise that what you’re doing is pretty evil (to use a strong word but, honestly, I think it is Sad)

Elleexxtra · 08/11/2021 22:52

@foxgoosefinch

It needs tweeting to the papers, too - Times/Mail/Metro and so on if anyone here’s on Twitter. There’s a bit of pushback on it on Twitter already, but only a very polite thread so far.

Big fuss needed - it absolutely cannot be right that companies parading their collusion with damaging young girls’ bodies without their parents’ knowledge is seen as progressive and laudable. And they absolutely have to stop allowing daft junior employees free rein on their social media to promote all sorts of nonsense!

I've emailed a few newsdesks... And lush head office.
PaterPower · 08/11/2021 22:49

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Queenoftheashes · 08/11/2021 22:43

www.instagram.com/p/CWA6_94gN6-/?hl=en

EarthSight · 08/11/2021 22:38

Wooooowwwww.

Could you post a direct link please?

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:31

It needs tweeting to the papers, too - Times/Mail/Metro and so on if anyone here’s on Twitter. There’s a bit of pushback on it on Twitter already, but only a very polite thread so far.

Big fuss needed - it absolutely cannot be right that companies parading their collusion with damaging young girls’ bodies without their parents’ knowledge is seen as progressive and laudable. And they absolutely have to stop allowing daft junior employees free rein on their social media to promote all sorts of nonsense!

NetballHoop · 08/11/2021 22:28

Well I won't buy anything from them until this is dropped. I don't wish anyone to lose their jobs but I really don't want any young girls to be encouraged to bind.

Clymene · 08/11/2021 22:27

This is absolutely sick. Celebrating and encouraging girls to hate their bodies.

Fallingirl · 08/11/2021 22:25

How does the law around this work? If someone is harmed as a result of a product from a given shop, that shop is liable, is it not?

Presumably shops have some form of liability insurance. I wonder if Lush’ insurers will cover them if an irate parent sues them over their daughter being harmed with a binder they facilitated?

Queenoftheashes · 08/11/2021 22:24

Sam (he/they)
I think Sam means
Sam (aged 9)

ArabellaScott · 08/11/2021 22:23

This is the 'gender swap' CIC that is working in collab with Lush. They have done a 'back to school' tutorial

www.instagram.com/p/CUK_dLSp_Bb/

Queenoftheashes · 08/11/2021 22:23

The fucking pronouns in the comments.

It’s clearly a vanity project from some trans employee.

ArabellaScott · 08/11/2021 22:19

It's on Lush Paddington's insta

www.instagram.com/lushpaddington/

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:17

Binders not bidets! Gosh I really am tired and need to learn to preview for typos before posting 🤦‍♀️

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 22:16

Even without the potential rib damage, bidets really ruin the aesthetics of the natural breast. So all the young teenagers who are caught up in this ideology - often as a result of poor body image and low self esteem - then end up with damaged and unappealing breasts, which must make body image issues so much worse whether they transition or detransition.

At 18 you look at your ruined breasts in a mirror and then either you want to cut them off in a drastic surgery; or you’re left ashamed and sad about them? It’s awful.

I have always had large breasts and tried to minimise them as a teenager with flattening bras and so on. I really wanted small perky ones. But now I love them, and post bf they really are saggy and honestly I did not appreciate how gorgeous they actually were! It’s so sad to think of young girls with their lovely natural free bodies constructing and damaging them!

It’s so awful too to think that people are encouraging young girls to “treat” body image discomfort and distress by causing more guaranteed body distress. It’s sadistic; and yes, it’s going to come to be seen in the future as an appalling failure and terrible scandal, and anyone or any company who thinks this is ethical and progressive is stupid as fuck and ought to be held liable in the future.

CheeseMmmm · 08/11/2021 22:15

Is that lush shot in OP Facebook?

Do you know when OP?

I always like to see original iyswim.

I'm interested in if age check etc.

Montagmarch · 08/11/2021 22:14

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Gobbolinothekitchencat · 08/11/2021 22:13

This is not what these young girls need. They need to be able to discuss how they are feeling, understand how they are changing, not be handed something that is potentially damaging. Offer them free body cream and a chance to chat if they are so keen to get them into their store. This is a huge blatant red flag, if a school or youth group attempted this then it would reported straight away. This is not supporting vulnerable young women.

ArrrMeHearties · 08/11/2021 22:08

Not that I've ever shopped in lush before but definitely won't be now if this is the stance they are taking.

Xiaoxiong · 08/11/2021 22:07

One of the saddest things I saw once was a detransition video where a young woman in her 20s said she could no longer sing, as wearing a binder had damaged her rib cage.

Imagine telling someone that you are giving out items of clothing that can damage someone that badly, and permanently.

ObeseWanKenobi · 08/11/2021 22:05

This is utterly vile.

TurquoiseBaubles · 08/11/2021 22:05

I do not in any way wish to denigrate any charity that works with homeless people by the way. I think a charity and shelter run locally and aimed at any group of people (be they LGB or "queer" or trans or women) is a good thing.

I'm just not convinced that encouraging mixing under-18s with adult services is such a good idea, even leaving aside the provision of binders.

Sexnotgender · 08/11/2021 22:02

@AnotherLass

Odd. When there was all that fuss about Lush donating to WPUK, it was said on twitter that someone moderately senior who is gender critical had peaked the management at Lush. And around the same time as the WPUK donation they did stop donating to all gender ID related causes, so I assumed that it was true.
Are the individual stores able to go rogue?
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TurquoiseBaubles · 08/11/2021 22:00

Which in turn is related to

twitter.com/LGBTIQoutside

I have no idea what or who this charity helps or how it operates (it's entirely possible it is a wonderful charity), but it seems to me that a pop-up cafe for both homeless people and young confused teenagers is a potential problem.

AnotherLass · 08/11/2021 22:00

Odd. When there was all that fuss about Lush donating to WPUK, it was said on twitter that someone moderately senior who is gender critical had peaked the management at Lush. And around the same time as the WPUK donation they did stop donating to all gender ID related causes, so I assumed that it was true.