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Sexnotgender · 08/11/2021 21:06

Assuming this is a way for predominantly children to circumvent parents and get their hands on a binder.

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CharlotteOH · 13/07/2022 16:47

foxgoosefinch · 08/11/2021 21:33

fucking hell, what next? If mum and dad don't think you should have porn or some off-label recreational drugs, we'll offer you a handy collection point to have them delivered?

Right side of history, my arse. You know you're not good people when you're creating secret spaces for minors to access things unsafeguarded and unmonitored so that their parents don't know.

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spfy · 13/07/2022 16:31

Is this still ongoing?

IntemperateSpirits · 23/11/2021 10:33

That BBc article is word salad pish - if he were making a point about social media being awful, that's one thing; but it does seem the "harm" he's referring to, is his customers being disagreed with.

Imnobody4 · 23/11/2021 10:33

Oh the irony (from article ^)
"I've spent all my life avoiding putting harmful ingredients in my products. There is now overwhelming evidence we are being put at risk when using social media," said Mark Constantine, co-founder and chief executive of Lush.

"I'm not willing to expose my customers to this harm, so it's time to take it out of the mix."

TreXX · 23/11/2021 10:20

Lush decide to stop using social media until it's "safer"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59380458.amp

Would that be because of the criticism they've had over the binders I wonder?

Honestly, why are people so threatened by alternative opinions?

FrancescaContini · 15/11/2021 10:01

@FindTheTruth

another protest photo. what amazing women and they moved fast!!! the banners are brilliant. and what good letters ppl on here have sent too. 💐
Excellent!! Thanks to all the women who took part.
PaleBlueMoonlight · 14/11/2021 19:41

@FindTheTruth

another protest photo. what amazing women and they moved fast!!! the banners are brilliant. and what good letters ppl on here have sent too. 💐
Well done those women.
ChattyLion · 14/11/2021 19:25

Sorry just seen that you have a thread on this, excellent question: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4401386-Why-aren-t-binders-a-regulated-medical-device

ChattyLion · 14/11/2021 19:19

Don’t bother complaining to lush. Complain to consumer standards, advertising authority, MHRA, your MP!!!

They need to be held to account.

And there needs to be a serious review of whether binders are a medical device (and should be regulated)

Agree with you absolutely everythingthelighttouches

Might be good to also copy in the medicines and healthcare regulatory agency (MHRA) too to remind them that binders are medically dangerous devices unregulated in the UK and seemingly being promoted as being necessary for good mental health for some young women. Without no proper evidence of benefit to their mental health long term. And no regulatory protection of these patients or consumers from the inevitable and possibly irreversible harms to their health if they use binders long term.
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AliceWo · 14/11/2021 13:21

I haven't read the whole thread, so apologies if it's been mentioned. I expect this is Lush's grovelling atonement for being accused of being transphobic last year for giving money to the Woman's Place.

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 14/11/2021 13:08

Thank you! A few typos 🤦‍♀️ did it on my phone and fuelled by anger!

Dinosaurhearmeroar · 14/11/2021 13:07

Good point - I will do!

KittenKong · 14/11/2021 12:46

Their store must be rented from - now who would own Paddington Station? I wonder if they’d be happy that the wholesome Paddington bear image is being associated with bodying harm to little girls?

everythingthelighttouches · 14/11/2021 12:27

Don’t bother complaining to lush. Complain to consumer standards, advertising authority, MHRA, your MP!!!

They need to be held to account.

And there needs to be a serious review of whether binders are a medical device (and should be regulated).

FlyingOink · 14/11/2021 12:16

I mentioned this on the AIBU thread but the gc2b UK website shows its cheapest binder as £30.
So these are being subsidised by someone. They don't cost £7.

KittenKong · 14/11/2021 12:05

When my big sister was in 6th year it was ‘the thing’ for some girls to cut their wrists. God alone knows why - I assume there must’ve been some girls (always girls) in genuine emotional/mental distress, but oddly enough, my year didn’t have this at all.

TheWayOfTheWorld · 14/11/2021 11:10

This is fucking barbaric and reminds me of Keyser Soze in The Usual Suspects - here the trick being pulled is making girls actively want to be complicit in their own physical torture Angry

FindTheTruth · 14/11/2021 09:24

another protest photo. what amazing women and they moved fast!!! the banners are brilliant. and what good letters ppl on here have sent too. 💐

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Rhannion · 13/11/2021 23:11

@Dinosaurhearmeroar

This is the email I wrote to them - I’m not sure how good it is, I was so angry and upset!

To whom it may concern,

I have just seen Lush Paddington’s Instagram about offering breast binding apparatus. For a company that is against cruelty to animals I am amazed that you are advocating this barbaric practice for free to girls. And without parental consent?

Had you done any research into breast binding (besides Mermaids which is a misinformed propaganda machine) you would know that breast binding is incredibly harmful to young developing women. Not only can it cause rib constriction,bone deformity and breathing difficulties, and risk of heart attacks. (
ftmtopsurgery.ca/blog/ftm-faq/health-consequences-chest-binding/
) But hey - what’s a few deformed bodies if you’re on “the right side?” Why listen to the thousands of women who see this as child abuse? Many doctors also had agree but are too scared to speak out due to the vice like grip of stonewall. If you follow the news you will see the tide is turning against stonewall and that the BBC, channel 4 and the department of health have all pulled out of its diversity scheme due to its exact nature being the opposite of what it preaches.

I’m a secondary school teacher at an all girls school and I see the first hand effects of the trans trend every day - how would you handle an 11 year old girl telling you that they’re a boy and that I can’t tell their parents? This is not a trans student, this is a child with problems and your facile, thoughtless approach to these vulnerable children is dangerous and a safeguarding issue.

I buy from lush all the time - no longer. Until you stop supporting the abuse of young girls and erasure of women then I won’t support you. But so long as no rabbits are getting hurt - phew!

Yours,
Xxxx

Great email !
Rhannion · 13/11/2021 23:10

@FindTheTruth

protest today
Excellent 👍
ChattyLion · 13/11/2021 22:40

I haven’t read the whole thread- just from the OP this is absolutely shocking. How dare Lush be so casual about promoting dangerous permanently physically damaging devices that should go absolutely nowhere near a child?

ObeseWanKenobi · 13/11/2021 21:12

I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to RTFT, have Lush responded to anyone who has raised concerns about this? I'm astounded and, quite frankly, disgusted that the post is still up on their instagram page.

Elleexxtra · 13/11/2021 20:25

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Elleexxtra · 13/11/2021 20:24

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz

Comment on their Instagram post says they have temporarily suspended the partnership whilst they sort out some logistical issues.
Hope that means furious backpedalling
MrsJamin · 13/11/2021 20:23

*like (not sure what that word was!)