Prof Stock on Lorraine this morning 9.10am

Ann Coates (she/her)
@setoacnna
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Apparently yes, haven't seen it, but heard from someone who did

Makes me think of 'JKR is transphobic - because someone who didn't read her essay / any of her tweets told me she is. So it must be true'

So, who really knows what the real Lorraine thinks or who she really agrees with. Who knows but Lorraine and I are the same age and both from Lanarkshire. I bet secretly it's all a load of shite. But she's built up this personna.

Tweet:

LGB Alliance @ALLIANCELGB

Great to see respectful disagreement on @reallorraine. Increasingly, too many people only talk to those they agree with. The world is often more interesting when we talk to people we disagree with.

LK now doing the frantic butt covering by tweeting that she disagrees with Prof Stock and she ‘believes’ that TWAW.

Some of the replies are making me giggle.

So, who really knows what the real Lorraine thinks or who she really agrees with.

Maybe mimmybirthingparenty will convey to Ann Coates that we haven't had such a good laugh for ages.

Thank you

but I so wished when Lorraine said she believed twaw, that Kathleen could have said 'why do you?'

Exactly. Let's hear that floundering load of jibberjabber live on telly.

And let's get to the nub of it with the implications. So you believe rapists should be put in women's prisons?

Fortunately, we are getting closer and closer to that huge denouement.

Met her match?

Oh dear.

twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1457641199733444611?s=21

Hilarious. Kathleen Stock met her match in Lorraine bloody Kelly. Says a person who then admits she never actually watched the programme. The stupidity of Twitter never fails to impress.

KS tweet

Kathleen Stock @Docstockk
Thanks @reallorraine for having me. I can see Twitter dissent but I think it’s totally fine for us to disagree - that’s what we want, don’t we, open discussion? Otherwise I’d be no better than those who want me fired.

(TRAs, pulling their masks off like Scooby Doo villains: 'We would have got away with it too, if it wasn't for your pesky articulacy, solid arguments and media savvy...')

So glad to have seen it, I don't watch the show and also happened to look on here exactly when it was starting so thank you. I think it's great it was on and fair play to Lorraine for giving KS some air time. It was a fascinating bit of virtue signalling playing out live on TV - did anyone else notice Lorraine was almost completely turned away from the camera throughout, it was like she was saying with her whole body, 'I don't agree with this, don't associate me with these bigoted views?'

I don't think it was the right time for Kathleen to be challenging her because it would have been too easy for some viewers to write her off as a difficult, angry woman, but I so wished when Lorraine said she believed twaw, that Kathleen could have said 'why do you?' Or asked about whether Lorraine believes whether if someone who owns a penis uses that penis to hurt lots of vulnerable vagina-owners, they should then be locked up in a women's prison. If you have to state 'I believe xyz is true' then you have an issue, don't you? We don't go around stating, 'I believe in gravity.' Because gravity existing is a fact. There are ways we can prove it exists. The minute you have to state you are a believer in something, you're clearly stepping away from reality. Even with something like climate change - you see people say 'I don't believe/do believe climate change is manmade,' but it's easy for people to pull out the evidence that it is and if someone refuses to accept that, that's then an issue with their mental health/their refusal to read the evidence/or they're clinging onto denial because of being fearful.

Anyway, well done to Kathleen, she is so calm and collected and doing so much amazing work. I love that she brings in that she's never wanted students to just agree with her, she wants to challenge them. You can't see her say that and think she's unreasonable.

Oh yes! I forgot about that. So true

I don't find her authentic but I think she is great at her job.

Don’t forget, for tax purposes she is playing the role of “Lorraine Kelly” on her show

Oh sorry ElectricCarbonara, wrong quote, wrong comment, wrong thread!

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But personally, I don't understand how anyone could ever win a debate over this, given that it has the departure from reality as its premise.

But more than that, much, much more than that, even if your linguistic skills are giving you an advantage in a debate, the very nature of what you're arguing for is what I would like to be put into the public domain.

Even if you win or dominate, let's see what you claim is your prize.

Who on earth can remember the first person who said not all women have a cervix? But now, every politician, gets asked that.

Whatever Grace Lavery asserts, every politician, policymaker, pundit, will be asked whether they agree with it.

I couldn't give a toss about the likes of Lavery. I do care about who is writing prison policy, and putting children and men in the same changing room. And they have to agree with someone like Lavery, in order to do it. So let's all see exactly what Lavery thinks.

Well spotted, GCmiddle. Kathleen Stock is from Montrose.

I get the impression that Lorraine is all faux nicey, nicey. Her interview style is to be as pleasing and empathic as possible but underneath i sense she is an as hard as nails, island. She has a career that has lasted decades. She knows how to be a woman and present as motherly, sisterly, warmly and like a big hug and basically how to be a woman in a man's world. I don't think she is anyone's fool. I suspect she feels that if she can make it, anyone can. That's my view but obviously...what do I know? I don't find her authentic but I think she is great at her job.

What is birthingparents point?

Kathleen was intimidated at work to the point that she could no longer bear it and had to give up her job to escape it. Which was the intention of the intimidation.

Because this intimidation is being discussed by Kathleen does mimmybirthingparent think there hasn't been enough of it? It seems like the rage fest got it's desired result of her leaving the job and so it's moved onto horror that Kathleen is now talking about the intimidation.

Lorraine agreed that talking freely was the right thing to do.

Is it me or was Kathleen speaking with a Scottish accent?!

I wonder what Lorraine doesn't agree with, that KS says? Would love more info on that...

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The 'pick me dance' gets talked about on the Relationships board when the wife tries to hang on for a loser-cheating-husband.