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Does anyone believe this debate will go ahead ?

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yestheyhavethesamedad · 08/11/2021 08:16

Grace lavery at 2am sunday morning put out a post asking british feminists for a debate , when they are in the uk in march , about 3 minutes later claimed people were too scared to debate 🙄
Helen Joyce, Julie Bindle and a few more woman have said yes ,grace is now saying no one has confirmed and that they are backing out.
So does anyone thing this will actually go ahead and want to place bets on the excuses why suddenly it cannot go ahead , backpeddling already started , ie: no one is organising ect

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Helleofabore · 08/11/2021 09:03

I think that the way this has progressed is very indicative of the types of personalities involved.

Lavery’s tweet-versation with Andrew Doyle about this is rather enlightening. And not in any good way about Lavery.

allmywhat · 08/11/2021 09:01

Actually now I think about it, I wonder if the fact that Lavery’s openly angry about people saying Lavery intends to back out is a sign that Lavery does indeed intend to back out. It’s a thing with that type of personality.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/11/2021 08:53

I think the second goes without saying. But it's possible this is part of it.

allmywhat · 08/11/2021 08:47

Lavery is being staggeringly obnoxious about it. But I can’t figure out if that’s because Lavery intends to be deliberately obnoxious and unreasonable to a degree that prevents the event from happening, and then claim victory, or if “staggeringly obnoxious” is just Lavery’s basic personality.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 08/11/2021 08:43

Helen Joyce is very much on it! twitter.com/hjoycegender/status/1457628564728291328?s=21

FindTheTruth · 08/11/2021 08:42

Time for women to repeat the call for debate publicly permanently some where to keep referring to?

FindTheTruth · 08/11/2021 08:40

Katy Montgomerie was called out for this too, I think by Dr Jane Clare Jones.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 08/11/2021 08:31

Yes I think it will. Not impressed by Lavery ruling out Kathleen Stock though.

NecessaryScene · 08/11/2021 08:24

Grace has done at least one versus-GC debate before - on this small-but-excellent podcast:

Heterodorx (Corinna Cohn + Nina Paley) episode 26

Although that was maybe more "confrontational interview" than "debate".

I would kind of expect them to get there in the end, unlike Katy Montgomerie's rather pathetic back-pedal versus JCJ. I think Grace is made of slightly sterner stuff, and more confident in their views, and sufficiently fond of attention.