MS are handing out pronoun badges to their staff

See encouragement is the wrong word to use, encouragement sounds like they are trying to persuade people to have them rather than neutrality having them available.
I totally understand the issues with pronouns etc but i find it encouraging that these ate available and the uptake is not high at my dps store witg 200 odd staff as far as he knows not a single person has one.

jobs.marksandspencer.com/stonewall-workplace-equality-index

Because we have staff who want the damn things. Same as in all organisations now .. some people insist on being 'heard' and 'recognised' and whereas most of us couldn't care less that Dave on produce wants to be known as 'she/her/pansexual', Dave feels it necessary that we all know.

So to keep the Dave's happy, companies have to oblige in some way

No, they don't. There is no legislation requiring that anyone's identity be affirmed or recognised.

I know that M&S aren't the only large company doing this, which is part of the problem.

If you WANT a badge proclaiming you're woke and must be referred to as 'they/them' then you can have one. Will you be offered one? No

We introduced these new badges a few months ago (a brilliant idea from a colleague that was then implemented by Cleo and our LGBTQ+ Network).'

This is a quote from M&S. There is also a quote from Stonewall.

@Ereshkigalangcleg absolutely spot on.

@Datun for the 4th time, there is no policy.

So there is no company-wide encouragement to offer name badges with pronouns to staff in all M&S stores? Despite what this David guy in the article in the OP said?

[quote SuperDup3r]@Datun for the 4th time, there is no policy. M&S don't have a policy for their staff to wear these badges. Are you particularly hard of understanding? [/quote]
The policy is to offer the badges.

A badge with pronouns on is making a political statement. Therefore their policy is to offer their staff badges to make political statements that harm women.

You sure don't seem very informed for someone who is 'against all this shit'.

[quote SuperDup3r]@RufustheBadgeringReindeer excellent! Hopefully you'll now understand it's not really happening. As you've listened [/quote]
Condescending much 😀

@Datun for the 4th time, there is no policy. M&S don't have a policy for their staff to wear these badges. Are you particularly hard of understanding?

[quote SuperDup3r]@Datun come back to the thread when you see more than 1 M&S staff member wearing this badge.

I'd love to debate this all day but, for the 3rd time, it's really not happening as this thread would have you believe [/quote]
Again, it's not about the individuals. It's about the policy.

It's about people on this very thread being called transphobic if they don't adhere to it. Or, in your case, calling them rude and, er, silly.

[quote SuperDup3r]@Datun this was a young girl aged about 17. In quite capable of not being rude to her. What did you want me to do? Have a word with her? Shown my disdain as I picked up my Dyson? Don't be silly now [/quote]
And there we have it!

It's silly to object. She's young. Be kind.

Of course I expect people to object. That's why we are all writing to Marks & Spencer's.

And that's why we will notice when that gets called 'frothing'. Or silly.

@RufustheBadgeringReindeer excellent! Hopefully you'll now understand it's not really happening. As you've listened

Plus its fucking irritating to be told that no one is listening when I actually am 😒

@Datun come back to the thread when you see more than 1 M&S staff member wearing this badge.

I'd love to debate this all day but, for the 3rd time, it's really not happening as this thread would have you believe

So to keep the Dave's happy, companies have to oblige in some way

Exactly. How come you get to keep Dave happy and not the women who disagree with it?

@Datun this was a young girl aged about 17. In quite capable of not being rude to her. What did you want me to do? Have a word with her? Shown my disdain as I picked up my Dyson? Don't be silly now

True datun

[quote SuperDup3r]@RufustheBadgeringReindeer nah, no one is listening. It's all about how the world has gone mad etc etc. How the OP will be emailing in etc etc (she should, it would give people a bit of a laugh)

I am the first person to be against this sort of woke shit btw. I saw a young girl wearing a 'they/them please!' badge in Argos - that's exactly what it said. And I inwardly eye rolled

But this thread is specific to M&S and you won't be seeing this in there - UNLESS a member of staff specifically wants it. [/quote]
There are posters on here not saying things like that

Its a mistake to believe that because some posters dont agree with you that they aren’t listening

@Datun then you really must address almost every single company out there. Because this isn't unique to M&S.

And the reality is, you're not going to be falling over staff with it emblazoned on them. That is a fact!