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LGBTQ training at work

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BrassyLocks · 05/11/2021 10:59

Does anyone know anything about the Diversity Trust? They're providing training in LGBTQ+ awareness, and I'd like to know more about their stance in advance of the training so I can prepare some questions. Anyone have any experience with this organisation?

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severnboring · 05/11/2021 13:40

Don't think Maloney is connected to that org - Morgan is the Diversity Trust director:

'Cheryl Morgan, a trans activist from Bristol, described women who disagree with trans ideology as an “infestation” and referred to them by the insulting epithet “terf”. However, she was used by Avon and Somerset police to run “equality training”, including with cadets.
Last year, Avon and Somerset officers did not intervene when masked trans activists picketed a feminist meeting in Bristol, stopping women entering.'

Here's an archive of article:

archive.md/9rq81

BrassyLocks · 05/11/2021 13:31

I'm really shocked. I've messaged to find out who booked the training from this organisation, and depending on the reply will take it further. I couldn't see all of that Times article - is Maloney related to the Diversity Trust?

We're definitely not Stonewall affiliated. A segment of our business is public facing, so from that point of view the training is supposed to advise on how to interact with LGBTQ clients. I just fear there will be a bigger agenda. Those news links were awful Sad

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endofagain · 05/11/2021 13:00

I think that now is very good time to raise the issue of training/awareness of staff and clients with disabilities. The Fiasco in Glasgow with the Israeli delegate unable to access the building was shameful.

severnboring · 05/11/2021 12:59

Good luck OP - director of Diversity Trust has a long history of misogynist abuse and trying to shut down women meeting to discuss their rights:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-used-violent-transgender-activist-for-equality-training-x0mktgclw

medium.com/@elsaegret/abusive-misogynist-activist-writes-nhs-policy-in-bristol-21dd02cc4c9c

medium.com/@elsaegret/stitch-up-bristol-fashion-f1eb298e28da

lazylinguist · 05/11/2021 12:43

What always bothers me when I hear about this kind of training is this: Employers obviously have the right (and responsibility) to train their staff in skills they need for doing their job, and in how to comply with the company's policies and working methods. What they don't have a right to do is try to train people in what they should think or believe, or to try to influence their personal or political views.

KittenKong · 05/11/2021 12:04

Oh - Could it be to do with client expectations (do you have to complete forms when you pitch for work?)?

KittenKong · 05/11/2021 12:03

I’d also ask the cost and the proposed learning outcomes/takeaways for staff (educational not goodies). Is your company stonewall affiliated?

BrassyLocks · 05/11/2021 12:02

Yes I saw that too on their website, which is encouraging.

I'll definitely ask about disability training, as I don't recall that happening. Also, religious discrimination training - not even sure what that would be called? Muslim women need sex segregated restrooms - we all do, but there is a religious element to the Muslim woman needing it, so I'd be interested to hear how they address that.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 05/11/2021 11:56

Quick look at the website shows that they at least list the correct protected characteristics which is a start…

KittenKong · 05/11/2021 11:55

True. I would sweetly ask when the disability training is happening? But they know that my sister is visually impaired and one of my bugbears is those flipping damgerois rainbow zebras...

BrassyLocks · 05/11/2021 11:52

I'd rather go, otherwise I fear everyone might be swept along with the ideology without thinking the issues through. We're a small team, so this could have a significant impact. Then again, this organisation's training might have a perfectly reasonable and balanced approach (unlikely but possible).

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KittenKong · 05/11/2021 11:35

Can you just say no... I’m so fed up of this trained now.

‘Not having it - gay family members, have been fully aware of ‘gay people’ since the early 70s. Spent formative years in gay clubs, met many a transsexual. Aware of the bigotry that was around back in the day - and the resurgence of it now, possible due to the driving force of such training... So no thanks.’ Then I’d ask what they were doing for disability awareness and accessibility issues.

334bu · 05/11/2021 11:28

sorry can't help, just bumping till someone more knowledgeable comes along.