Women died for my right to vote, but......

I'm in a somewhat similar position. I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. I haven't voted Labour since 2005. My vote since then has been split LD/Tory depending upon the election. In theory as I don't have a principled objection to voting tory I should vote for them. But a) I dislike Boris and b) I still can't forgive them for Brexit (yes, I recognise that it is done now - but I still don't feel able to vote conservative).

In the last election (London mayoral) in the absence of any major GC candidate (yes we had the SDP and a few independent, but they were small fry), I decided that I had two choices a) abstain or spoil my ballot paper and b) vote on a purely local issue which would severely impact my life. As it was a local election I went with b and voted on an anti-silvertown tunnel ticket which meant voting LD and (for the first and possibly last time in my life) Green.

But for the next election I haven't got a clue. Whichever way it'll probably be with my nose held. In terms of the General Election I live in an extremely safe Labour seat. The current (male) MP is a careerist and won't espouse anything too controversial to party dogma.

I would be the first in three generations to do so, but I'll vote Tory if the other parties don't see sense.

I know people are amazed that this is enough of an issue to make it a single vote decider, but frankly if we lose the sex based protections and definition of "woman" we'll never get it back, nor will our daughters or their daughters.

Frankly I don't give a shit what else is happening in politics if my existence doesn't matter.

A discussion about the British political system.

I feel exactly the same. I did look at the SDP manifesto, and it looked fine. In Wales, the Education syllabus for next year is absolutely ridiculous, and you could call it - teaching children lies.

Social Democratic Party ( not the Lib Dems).

We are in a very very safe Tory seat, in an area that has an organisation that’s in stonewalls top 20 funders, maybe even top ten possibly. Schools are frighteningly pro gender ideology.

All of which I find really strange because anyone I talk to personally gets the problems with little explanation from me. I don’t talk to everyone about it, I can think of a couple I avoid for the sake of the kids friendships-although even then I don’t lie when it’s came up, just don’t bang on like my usual style- but I appear to talk about it more than a lot judging by what I’ve read on here/Twitter about how scared people are to bring it up. Like I’ll bring it up at kids hobbies/dog park/hair dressers and so on. Not all the time, more like if asked how I am and I’m stressed about schools and this shit. And maybe people just agree to shut me up, but there’s certainly plenty who get it here. Yet there’s obviously a lot of stonewall influence also. So maybe mp is captured, or maybe he assumes the bigger funder/schools policies are representative of opinion here. Or maybe he just doesn’t gaf because he knows he keeps his seat by a big chunk each time.

I’ve never had anyone come to the door here either. So never get to rant face to face.

@BloodinGutters

Makes no difference to my vote, I’m single issue voter, but I’ve never understood the vote conservative if you want a strong economy because the ifs & imf strongly suggest the opposite is true.

Oh I agree with you on the wider economy, which is why I vote (or rather, had been voting) as I do. But I'm a high earner in a global industry likely to inherit 6, maybe 7 figures. So for my personal financial interest, I'd be voting Tory.

I'm just new here today (STB mum) so I'm totally shocked and pleasantly surprised this discussion is happening. I've been worrying over this too. Luckily, I could vote Alba but it feels like a wasted vote at the moment. Keen to hear others thoughts!

If Labour got in they definitely work towards getting self id in. But I don’t think it would happen over night given all the opposition. I don’t think it would likely happen within one term (could be wrong of course).

An noticeable uptick in votes for openly gc/any self id candidates would be something that’s seen by all parties. If a safe anything seat suddenly goes to a candidate that’s gc then that creates a strong message. If that’s a few seats over varying areas of the country then it has a bigger effect. It says to all parties this matters, and whichever party isn’t in government can see that and use to their advantage. I think bj is all kinds of muppet but he can do math. Any party who wants votes can. They can choose to appeal to an issue the electorate has shown them matters or they can remain the opposition.

My Labour MP is GC (and massively criticised for it). If she doesn't get hounded out I'll continue to support her.

I'll stick with Official Monster Raving Loony Party. at least they are honest

That's so poor @BloodinGutters.

I actually had a lengthy conversation with my MP on my doorstep about it all. Apparently Jacob Rees Mogg is very supportive of the GC cause 😬

I hate being in company with him but even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Anything gc, which is most of my emails over the last decade, I get the auto office reply and nothing else.

So some posters would vote for Christopher Chope (Conservative), but not Rosie Duffield (Labour)?

That’s really going to help, isn’t it?

(I tend to look closely at independent candidates right now, although I did have a party to vote for at the most recent election in Scotland.)

Do you mean taxation?

Because otherwise the ifs and imf have continually said over the last however many years that it’s labours policies that would be best for the economy.

Makes no difference to my vote, I’m single issue voter, but I’ve never understood the vote conservative if you want a strong economy because the ifs & imf strongly suggest the opposite is true.

Why not vote Tory? I don't get why not. I am not a Tory voter but absolutely will vote for them if they oppose self ID. Is not voting Tory more important than preserving women's rights.

I've happily voted against my own economic interest for my entire adult life but I'm no fucking way going to vote against my sex. If a party cannot acknowledge my lived existence as a female person is not fungible with a male's idea of womanhood in his own head, they do not deserve my vote.

The thought of Labour actually getting in now terrifies me.

• meant the 20% pro self id would be much much lower if the realities were spelled out

I will never vote Tory. This is an important issue but not the only issue.