Kathleen Stock on BBC Woman's Hour today

twitter.com/Wilus1969/status/1457029604447858689?s=20

I'd like to think that freeing KS to speak her mind and further motivating her to do so will be a classic error of the proportions of having the worst continent in Risk .

Oh I'm sorry Margarita's post was deleted. It was very revealing.

Kathleen Stock didn't let 3 years of bullying and intimidation silence her because she's brave. You don't hear from the people who are really being silenced because they see what happened to her and keep their heads down. Which was, I imagine, the intention all along.

[quote prudencepuffin]**@NecessaryScene - I did actually ask two students what exactly they thought KS would do to them to make them unsafe. As you might expect there was no reply!
Dangling them out of the window might have brought a little air into their fevered brains![/quote]
Exactly. They've been trained not to question, not to read and not to make up their own minds - in a way I feel sorry for them

@NecessaryScene - I did actually ask two students what exactly they thought KS would do to them to make them unsafe. As you might expect there was no reply!
Dangling them out of the window might have brought a little air into their fevered brains!

Thanks for the link @Alektopteryx

archive.ph/zqZEF

Contained the obligatory comments from a few students saying she is making them unsafe but generally a good article.

Did she dangle them out the window as a punishment for bad philosophy?

KS certainly wasnt wrong about all this giving her more platforms to speak - another front page article on the Life and Arts section of the FT today under the heading: "They Dont Want to Argue with me. They Just want to ruin my reputation". Sorry, couldnt find the link. Contained the obligatory comments from a few students saying she is making them unsafe but generally a good article.

Your understanding of the case is so flimsy, margarita, that you earlier demonstrated that you don’t even know what constructive dismissal is. Given that ignorance, why would anyone here take your input seriously?

Please do carry on though, you do incredible work demonstrating the level at which Kathleen’s critics operate works for me, though I’ve no idea why you think you help your case.

Every time a critic of hers is asked what were the words she said that are so offensive they reply “Shush! We can’t say her words!”

Pretty effective silencing if you ask me. And. It’s deliberate, because they know if they say her words out loud there’s nothing offensive about them at all.

I don't understand how she can say she's been "silenced" when she's on the radio and has been in just about every media outlet daily for weeks since this started.

What's being done to academic pensions is a scandal but the current UCU exec are not capable of advocating or bargaining on our behalf.

Academics have always swapped salaries (I'd be earning at least 50% more than I earn as a professor if I'd taken up the civil service graduate entry/high flyer job I was offered 30 years ago) for tenure (which we no longer have) and a decent pension.

I know this is a side issue to the thread, but's what the alternative? Contributions at 20-something% of salary? I sure as hell couldn't afford that, and there are already those around me who aren't part of the main USS pension because they can't afford the contributions at their current 9.8%.

Oh thanks for the link @WarriorN - I do know of her work, and her situation. She spoke at Filia last month.

As well as the linked talk in the article, there's also this one which was around the time her book came out (joint publication.)

I think her book was one of the ones that was regularly removed from the library at the Tavistock that is mentioned in episode 5 of Nolan.

womansplaceuk.org/2019/06/21/in-defence-of-michele-moore/

I know an academic who knew a lot of of prof Moore's work and also knew other local academics who had spoken to her, worrying about and working with Moore or sharing a platform which was on things nothing to do with trans.

Moore? Is this yet another professor in this situation?

Did anybody else hear Justin Webb interviewing Jo Grady on Radio 4 about the UCU pension dispute?

Jo Grady is an idiot - not a proper grown up for such a responsible job. I hang in there in the UCU, but only just. She was using T*erfblocker for a while, so I couldn't see her tweets - the Gen Sec of my own union!

What's being done to academic pensions is a scandal but the current UCU exec are not capable of advocating or bargaining on our behalf.

Academics have always swapped salaries (I'd be earning at least 50% more than I earn as a professor if I'd taken up the civil service graduate entry/high flyer job I was offered 30 years ago) for tenure (which we no longer have) and a decent pension.

Random, but my brain insists on processing that screen name Grogipher like it’s a monster out of a children’s book. Like Ickabog or Gruffalo.

It's occurred to me that the bbc have been quite clever in hiring Emma Barnett.

She's got a good journalistic background, and by lengthening the programme, this has allowed these longer in-depth interviews and more opportunities to cover current affairs.

Her interview with Amanda Knox made it on to newsnight, which I don't think ever happened with previous interviewers.