Kathleen Stock on BBC Woman's Hour today

What has triggered all of this towards her?
Her book? I haven’t read it, I’m assuming it’s not easy to give a quick translation of what she has said in her book?

I know she doesn’t want the term women to be redefined, which is fair enough.
But what has triggered such disgusting behaviour?

[quote JoodyBlue]@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus I do agree. But they will have to play a part in putting it right. Damage has been done, but enough people listen to the beeb that they will have to be a vehicle of public discussion. Ultimately pressure to debate publicly via the public broadcaster will see these issues aired and the relative claims to truth revealed.[/quote]
I don't disagree. It's like all those wretched CEOs who effectively say, I know I've presided over a scandal and wrecked the company. But, I'm the only one who knows what happened and in any position to fix it. Beyond that, no other CEO would take this poisoned chalice so, in fact, you need to pay me more. It's great how that works out for me.

The non-journalistic BBC staff who put no store by public duty, the role of a public broadcaster or impartiality are going to fight a rearguard action against fixing this.

New information for me was that there is a network of ACADEMICS behind the persecution. Reminds me of the cultural revolutions in China, purges in Soviet Russia.

thanks @Leaf and done :)

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@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus I do agree. But they will have to play a part in putting it right. Damage has been done, but enough people listen to the beeb that they will have to be a vehicle of public discussion. Ultimately pressure to debate publicly via the public broadcaster will see these issues aired and the relative claims to truth revealed.

As the nation's public broadcaster, they were instrumental in helping create the vicious climate against free speech we are in. They have been caught out now and publicly shamed by the Nolan Report. This is them attempting atonement, but it's too late, the damage is done. The BBC learned absolutely nothing from Savile.

I'm yet another who thinks Ted has given a succinct summary of this mess.

This whole thing makes me so sad. What a mess.

I think Julie Bindel makes the point that we need to stand behind or in front of the young - take the bullet I think she says. But yes, make noise in support of their right to speak and think. It goes way beyond the discussion of trans ideology. I like that she said that she supports the idea of old fashioned discussion. I wonder how many young people hear that.

are standing up for the right of all students to say 2+2 = 4. This is never highlighted in interview. It is always painted as one generation against another.

very good point. Rosario was good last week. yes more intergenerational voices are needed to dispel this myth and give courage to more young people

mix of support and dismissal in response to WH here
twitter.com/BBCWomansHour/status/1455838464801394688

The thing that really strikes me is she and the other academics who have the same courage are standing up for the right of all students to say 2+2 = 4. This is never highlighted in interview. It is always painted as one generation against another. The reality is that I suspect there is a large percentage of the student population silenced on a issue they want to question themselves. There are very few people standing for their right to think. Prof Stock is one. These women are epic! If they lose, we lose the right to think, it is very stark isn't it?

So happy they are having a baby. Lovely.

I thought the statement from Sussex UCU was quite snarky - they and UCU Central don't look too good in all of this.

@Oldbadger1 - must be so hard for your friends. It feels akin to some kind of resistance movement during a war. Solidarity and love to all those academics having to live and work in such a heightened state of anxiety and fear.

Finally Woman's hour. Raquel Rosario Sánchez and Professor Kathleen Stock allowed to say what happened to them on BBC Woman's hour.

And lesbians testimonies finally published on BBC news England after 5 years.

And firm pushback from the BBC to complainers about impartiality

Director General Tim Davie said impartiality is "sacrosanct, mission critical and we're seeing the results

No surprise that she was distressed. As she said it is like some terrible anxiety nightmare. She has done amazingly well through all of this. It was wonderful to hear the fight in her voice at the end. She is a hero.

Who caused all this ?

Was it when the government put out public consultation to reform gender recognition?

Doc Stock, still one of my sheroes, I managed the first ten minutes before my caree (MIL, 93, Vascular dementia) demanded my attention, so I shall follow up tonight when things are quiet.

Sussex university have been shameful in their lack of support and their encouragement of a society of no-debate and lack of independent thought.

I'm also delighted that womans' hour has finally had a volte-face and is properly representing the interests of women again.

Kathleen was great. She articulated the complete failure of universities to tackle cancel culture very well.

Dr Stock was superb, but clearly still distressed and shaken by what has happened - that sense of betrayal and 'public shaming' won't be easy to shake off.

I'm so angry that this was allowed to continue essentially unchecked for so long. The University's statement rings absolutely hollow. And as for the UCU...

I have friends in academia - this is not an isolated incident. Desperate times.

Fucking hell. A brilliant interview followed by 3 shitty statements. The Stonewall one was all about how well they are doing, nothing to do with KS and the climate they have created at all. You could hear the victorious, vainglorious tone in their words. And the TRA comments read out completely missed the bloody mark too, just the usual "be kind" rubbish. KS has always supported trans people ffs!

Is that Stonewall statement saying that they are no longer campaigning to have single sex exemptions removed from the Equality Act?

Because it's pretty bloody clear on their website

www.stonewall.org.uk/women-and-equalities-select-committee-inquiry-transgender-equality