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Civil service are celebrating International Men's Day

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jclm · 02/11/2021 18:46

civilservicelocal.blog.gov.uk/2021/11/02/join-our-international-mens-day-events-to-get-men-talking/

I cannot believe my eyes... Had to check this is not a spoof...

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WorkingItOutAsIGo · 03/11/2021 10:23

I am also going to actively model the respect I want people to show women’s issues and women’s spaces, so wouldn’t ask for the removal of words like men, or demand that transmen be centred. But I would imagine some might…

Floisme · 03/11/2021 09:11

^ That was in response to the comment about women posting on social media.

EyesOpening · 03/11/2021 09:10

No, I’m alluding to “pregnant people”, “people with vaginas”, “people who menstruate” etc. So instead of “hate men” “hate one out of every two people”.

Floisme · 03/11/2021 09:10

I don't see the need for women to join in, any more than I'd expect men to join in International Women's Day. I do think men fact a lot of issues and I certainly don't begrudge them this day and I hope it goes well. But it's for them to sort it out (and themselves), not us.

Snoopfroggyfrogg · 03/11/2021 09:05

I think the mental health and suicide stuff sounds good.

Perhaps it's a useful yardstick to have, to be able to push back and say 'actually no, on mens day, nobody refers to prostate havers or mxn, so men and women are accepted terms to use'.

KohlaParasaurus · 03/11/2021 08:51

From what I've seen on social media so far, it's going to be International Men's MONTH, with women already posting about the wonderful men in their lives and encouraging others to do likewise. Nothing so far about the themes of IMD this year, I had to go looking for those. I won't join in with the social media stuff. It would create unreasonable expectations of public adulation just for not being a jerk.

brokenbiscuitsx · 03/11/2021 08:45

@EyesOpening

“Do we have to hate men now?” I think you mean one out of every two people, no?
Sorry I don’t think I’m awake yet, I don’t get it. Do you mean does 1 in every 2 people have to hate men?
EyesOpening · 03/11/2021 08:23

“Do we have to hate men now?” I think you mean one out of every two people, no?

brokenbiscuitsx · 03/11/2021 08:01

@Floisme

Anything that encourages mxn to talk is a good thing in my book.
‘Mxn’ 🤣

I don’t understand though OP, isn’t a good thing. Lots of men suffer with mental health problems, it’s good for them to talk.

Do we have to hate men now? Is it that we have to bring them down in order to bring ourselves up? Hmm I’m a bit Confused

WorkingItOutAsIGo · 03/11/2021 07:59

I think all but none of those topics look great, and will not only benefit the men but also the families and groups they are part of. If they were celebrating it by getting trashed at the footie I might raise an eyebrow: but mental health and baby loss etc are really fantastic topics. I could imagine my DH and my DSs going to those sessions and really valuing them.

Parental Alienation on the other hand?????

Dyrne · 03/11/2021 07:56

I don’t see an issue with this - apart from what’s already been raised (no mention of transmen etc).

They’re not bursting into a women focused event and going “what about the men?”; it’s a completely separate event. And these issues are important to discuss and get men talking about them.

(Though I am side-eyeing a couple of the subjects as they could slip quickly down the MRA rabbit hole if not careful).

Warmduscher · 03/11/2021 07:47

@foxgoosefinch

Every day is international men’s day Confused
Quite.
EishetChayil · 03/11/2021 07:44

But what is a man?

NiceGerbil · 03/11/2021 04:06

Ís IMD celebrated all over the world?

In general though the sessions looked good until things that... Are MRA topics. That's s bit of s worry.

DV
Parental alienation
And allies? Bit confused about that

The other stuff all looks good though.

I do wonder what the take up will be.

Theunamedcat · 02/11/2021 20:54

Ahhh the good egg people total support of all things predatory accused me of alienating my children from their father apparently the fact that he himself chooses not to see them unless it suits him is my fault........I.should ya know force him or something maybe?

Cocopogo · 02/11/2021 20:25

Allyship? What the actual fuck

AssassinatedBeauty · 02/11/2021 20:21

I thought the list of workshops looked alright until I got to the one about Parental Alienation...

Flammkuchen · 02/11/2021 20:13

I don’t see a problem with this as long as it is applied fairly.

When it was International Women’s Day, organisations could earn extra Stonewall points for have a transwoman speak. My workplace duly had a talk from a transwoman who boasted about influencing the census.

I wonder if the same Stonewall criteria apply for transmen?

Cagedbirdsinging · 02/11/2021 20:03

@BrandineDelRoy 'he he Smile'
Hee hee Grin

KittenKong · 02/11/2021 19:40

Who is going to tell them that not all men etc etc etc and how the word man is completely offensive and undexclusive?

foxgoosefinch · 02/11/2021 19:36

Every day is international men’s day Confused

BrandineDelRoy · 02/11/2021 19:30

@Floisme

Anything that encourages mxn to talk is a good thing in my book.
"Mxn."

He he Smile

Floisme · 02/11/2021 19:13

Anything that encourages mxn to talk is a good thing in my book.

Hoardasurass · 02/11/2021 19:07
Hmm