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School contact re RSHE changes - Stonewall recommendation

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JoodyBlue · 02/11/2021 14:33

Just had a message through from school about D of E changes to RSHE in schools. The guidance is here - hopefully the link will work.
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1019542/Relationships_Education__Relationships_and_Sex_Education__RSE__and_Health_Education.pdf

Anyway, I am somewhat dismayed to see that the Stonewall is still a recommended government resource for teaching on LGBT, along with suggested lesson plans. Stonewall is listed along with Catholic guidance, and it is made clear that schools must discuss resources with parents consulting. However, to me, the link of a suggested resource in government guidance implies approval of that resource.

Anyone else have a view on this. I am quite discomforted by it. I would like to see alternative additional resources to Stonewall included for a balanced view on the teaching of gender identity.

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MsGoodenough · 02/11/2021 16:25

Stonewall are very much still the go to organisation for anything related to 'diversity' in rse. Outside of our bubble they are still highly respected and lauded. SSA and transgender trend have some great resources to help challenge, but it's an uphill struggle.

FindTheTruth · 02/11/2021 16:17

for any parents speaking with schools about Stonewall there's a template letter here
safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2021/02/14/is-your-childrens-school-a-stonewall-champion/

BloodinGutters · 02/11/2021 15:50

@RoyalCorgi

It's ridiculous, because the government put out guidance last year explicitly stating that schools shouldn't use RSE materials that claim, for example, that it's possible to be born in the wrong body, or that a child interested in toys associated with the opposite sex might be transgender.
Yes the d of e put this guidance in place. The d of e say any links to resources on their page are not an endorsement or a recommendation and that schools are responsible for checking all resources, including those on the d of e resources page, comply with the guidance.

Which stonewall don’t.

So op- go print out the relevant parts of the guidance and then challenge them with it

RoyalCorgi · 02/11/2021 15:39

It's ridiculous, because the government put out guidance last year explicitly stating that schools shouldn't use RSE materials that claim, for example, that it's possible to be born in the wrong body, or that a child interested in toys associated with the opposite sex might be transgender.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/11/2021 15:35

The DfE & civil servants to the very top of the DfE have been totally captured. Regrettably it's going to take the exposure of safeguarding scandals that can be directly linked to the undermining of safeguarding before they (who are of course divorced from the reality of children's lives) understand how dangerous some advice is.
Whether it's removing parental rights by transitioning children in secret, age inappropriate discussions about adult concepts, Stonewall promoted mixed age LGBT groups in schools, random adults with a vested interest mentoring T children in schools, emotive and careless use of inaccurate suicide data. All of these (and more) will eventually negatively impact on some vulnerable children but as too many in the DfE are an arms length away from safeguarding and understanding children, they don't appreciate the potential dangers.

FindTheTruth · 02/11/2021 15:20

OP, I'm surprised DfE are linking to SW. Stonewalls children's and young people's services page talks about suicide 🚩, self-harm 🚩 and how SW will help the school improve their policies and practices. 🚩🚩🚩

www.stonewall.org.uk/children-and-young-peoples-services-champions-programme

BloodinGutters · 02/11/2021 14:50

D of e have said publicly they do not endorse or check the resources listed.

They say in the guidance that it’s schools responsibility to check resources comply to guidance and that schools must not use any resources from any organisation that relies on stereotypes or teaches children can be born in the wrong body or that is a partisan political lobby group.

It sucks because it reads like a cop out. D if e guidance was updated to get stonewall out of schools yet they take zero responsibility for listing them in the resources and get around it by saying they don’t endorse or check organisations listed.

You just have to complain to school about this. Use the ssa &tt resources on how to address the problems with stonewall at school.

Personally I’d be adding to those resources the bbc news article about tw raping lesbians and sw response that compares orientation to bigotry, the bbc Nolan investigates podcast and the news articles that talk about how ehrc and ofsted have left sw diversity champions scheme this year.

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