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Another Guardian article.....

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 02/11/2021 07:43

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/nov/01/a-new-start-after-60-petra-wenham-transition-transgender?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1635751897

Why are they trying to drive this agenda? And of course, no interview with his wife, no discussion of the impact on her.

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Wildfart · 02/11/2021 08:29

Wenham has been touring WIs with gender "education" which I imagine doesn't mention Blanchard once. Intersex was in the meeting blurb, as usual Wenham goes off on that irrelevant tangent.

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 02/11/2021 08:16

And no mention of what "transitioning" actually consists of. Petra doesn't talk about having surgery, or medical treatment, just about being "out" to some people.

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KittenKong · 02/11/2021 08:11

What is ‘living as’ an elder woman exactly? I’m looking forward to wearing what I like, saying what I like and basically being a right terror. Nothing to do with gender or sex.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 02/11/2021 08:03

Previous thread when that edition of the magazine came out

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4284076-wi-sisterhood

The WI is for women, or should be, not for men who perform womanhood however that manifests. If a TW can join why not men generally? I mean as we have been told many many times you don’t have to ape femininity to be a TW.

Leafstamp · 02/11/2021 08:02

This person...

‘...was already living as a woman, though not fully out to all family and friends. Her children – two sons in their 40s – and grandchildren, still call her Dad and Grandad. “There is no point in confusing the kids. It might confuse the world, but that’s fine,”

Come on. Surely most people can see this for the nonsense that it is.

Amrapaali · 02/11/2021 08:02

All the older women I know are wise, eccentric and powerful matriarchs. If Petra wants to emulate that at the age of 68 then go Petra! It will be difficult though as a woman's lived experience will be vastly different to a biological male.

Will be very disappointed if Petra becomes another transwoman however performing femininity with fillers and blow dried hair.

Rightsraptor · 02/11/2021 07:58

'The personality of the person doesn't change' said Petra.

Don't think transwidows would agree.

And that magazine cover! Who past the age of 10 peeps around trees? I don't think the WI is for me.

Leafstamp · 02/11/2021 07:58

I saw someone on Twitter note that this person was quite happy to keep male privilege during working life. Convenient that.

Spinelessaurus · 02/11/2021 07:54

And still no explanation of what it means. What makes them feel they are really a woman? What's changed since the transition? What are they achieving that they couldn't do as a man?

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 02/11/2021 07:53

I am just fed up with The Guardian rolling out non-article after non-article about how wonderful it is to transition. It seems they do it almost every day. So yes, I do think they ate trying to push an agenda in that respect.

But maybe you're right, and I'm finding offence when I shouldn't.

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JingleCatJingle · 02/11/2021 07:53

That’s actually really nice.

RepentBirthingPersonFucker · 02/11/2021 07:51

It's a old article so I'm not sure why they are printing it now

TeamRex · 02/11/2021 07:51

It's frustrating isn't it? I have heard so often that women become invisible when they get older. They really do don't they? The woman's story in this situation is simply ignored.

Amrapaali · 02/11/2021 07:50

That's a fairly tame vanilla article. What agenda are you taking about? And why should Petra's wife's feelings be discussed? The article is about Petra and their transgenderism. There is acknowledgement about the impact on the wider family, children and grandchildren.

Are you looking for offence where none exists? I am very gender critical BTW, even I can't get worked up about this article. The WI cover was Hmm however

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