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Terry Gilliam show cancelled

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Unsureschool · 01/11/2021 17:32

Has had his show cancelled at the old vic due to problematic views.

I'm a fan of Gilliam and Into the Woods so might have booked tickets anyway, but will definitely do so now when they find a new theatre.

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AssassinatedBeauty · 01/11/2021 19:46

So it's nothing to do with the production itself and purely down to some employees of the theatre disapproving of some of the things he's said recently. The culmination apparently being that he expressed support for Chappelle's Netflix show.

Beamur · 01/11/2021 19:42

What has he actually said?

BlueberryCheezecake · 01/11/2021 19:29

The Times is spinning the trans angle in the headline, but the text of the article suggests the main concern is his defence of the rapist Harvey Weinstein and his description of the #MeToo movement as a "witch hunt".

donquixotedelamancha · 01/11/2021 19:12

It's pathetic that a theatre thinks the role of artists is to toe the line and avoid controversy.

IntermittentParps · 01/11/2021 18:38

@Epli

You know what's really irritating - you could have misogynist views on women and scream them out loud for centuries, you could write books on the subject and be given Noble prize. But don't you dare say something like TWANW. Dave Chapelle was 100% right, that's why they hated it so much.
YES.
IntermittentParps · 01/11/2021 18:38

So The Old Vic enabled Kevin Spacey's abusive behaviour to thrive for years, but now opinions and jokes get you cancelled?
My first thought too.

Aside from that, I'm constantly amazed at how much money creative organisations are prepared to throw away in order to satisfy the cancellation demands of their more Stasi-like employees. I could understand if Gilliam had actually done something terrible, but cancelling a big name production with a big name director in this climate seems like self-inflicted damage.
Yes, it's sledgehammers and nuts, isn't it?
I don't especially like his views on #metoo, but I'm not sure what they have to do with his ability to stage a good Sondheim show.

Epli · 01/11/2021 18:23

You know what's really irritating - you could have misogynist views on women and scream them out loud for centuries, you could write books on the subject and be given Noble prize. But don't you dare say something like TWANW. Dave Chapelle was 100% right, that's why they hated it so much.

TedImgoingmad · 01/11/2021 18:10

The king of dystopian future movies gets cancelled in the dystopian present. I hope he shouts about this very loudly.

Livelifeinthebuslane · 01/11/2021 18:07

I'd like to know what clause in his contract enabled it to be cancelled on the grounds of causing offence.

Unsureschool · 01/11/2021 18:03

The whole message of the show is " nice is different than good".

How apt!

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EsmaCannonball · 01/11/2021 18:01

So The Old Vic enabled Kevin Spacey's abusive behaviour to thrive for years, but now opinions and jokes get you cancelled?

Aside from that, I'm constantly amazed at how much money creative organisations are prepared to throw away in order to satisfy the cancellation demands of their more Stasi-like employees. I could understand if Gilliam had actually done something terrible, but cancelling a big name production with a big name director in this climate seems like self-inflicted damage. Who wants to watch earnest, ideologically-approved plays, directed by plodding, ideologically-approved directors?

ArtemesiaK · 01/11/2021 18:00

Sorry,Terry, but I can't help thinking this might be good news... Hope you sue them....

teawamutu · 01/11/2021 17:38

Sorry for TG, but every white man cancelled helps get the sunlight out there...