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JellySaurus · 01/11/2021 18:58

How on earth did FireFlyBoogaloo's message violate any Talk guidelines? It was cynical, true, but anyone who has ever done any practice that requires reflective supervision would have recognised the truth in it.

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RightsHoardingStegasaurus · 01/11/2021 17:37

@FireFlyBoogaloo I fear you are spot on

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 01/11/2021 17:19

After listening to that I can only say that he truly is stunning and brave. I was completely taken aback by his honesty, and I sincerely hope that he manages to make a full recovery and that his health insurance covers removing the gynecomastia.

I really hope the therapist is able to reflect on what he said, and take it to heart. In an ideal world she would start looking into the few research studies done on the "success" of medicalised "transition" and perhaps go on to help repair some of the terrible damage she has been complicit in.

JellySaurus · 01/11/2021 17:16

@WarriorN

The points in both videos made that the therapist has helped lots of trans people who are very happy v the idea he puts to her that many delusional people are quite happy, against his view now that he's been practising a form of self harm which they've enabled because of any ability to query 'the delusion' is very powerful and horrific.

The ideology as applied to unhappy people facilitates self-harm. If a person was unhappy because they were not allowed alcohol, would you facilitate their alcoholism? If a person was unhappy because they believed they were obese, would you facilitate the starving or purging? Why are they unhappy? Surely any therapists job is to help them work out the cause of their unhappiness and help them deal with that? Not just take what they say at face value and help them self-harm to meet it?

Cagedbirdsinging · 01/11/2021 16:50

Everything that is wrong with the whole trans ideology is here , distilled into a fifty minute hour .
That poor boy .

ThinkIveFoundYourMarbles · 01/11/2021 15:44

That was distressing

WarriorN · 01/11/2021 15:21

The points in both videos made that the therapist has helped lots of trans people who are very happy v the idea he puts to her that many delusional people are quite happy, against his view now that he's been practising a form of self harm which they've enabled because of any ability to query 'the delusion' is very powerful and horrific.

WarriorN · 01/11/2021 15:07

[quote RightsHoardingStegasaurus]Just that, really. It's a harrowing listen but very important

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Jesus. The end. The DARVO from her, "you're being abusive" and then telling him she can't change him into someone else while also telling him she regularly helps people turn into something else.

WarriorN · 01/11/2021 14:12

I wonder if this can be submitted to gov for conversion therapy?

WarriorN · 01/11/2021 14:11

Really harrowing.

This is his story; This young person has had an awful lot of abuse and trauma. That no therapist from the age of 8, took this in to account is absolutely disgusting.

I'm also really struck by his description of worsening autoimmune conditions thanks to oestrogen, including thyroid, which his Gp denied. (I also had this denied to me as a young woman as I linked my hypothyroidism to going on and off the pill. I was later told it was a risk factor.)

Oral oestrogen absolutely does impact your system if you have pre existing hypothyroidism. I feel it's what brought my hypothyroidism on but I can't be 100% sure. And as auto immune issues are more common in women it makes sense that this is a serious risk factor for any male with the genetics that predispose them to these conditions if they take oral oestrogen?

I'm really dumbfounded that the medical community have allowed such harm through both poor therapy gatekeeping and medical gatekeeping.