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Non-crime hate incidents

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TeamRex · 01/11/2021 11:52

Article in the Times today, we need more saying this loud and clearly

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3e6cfb28-3a81-11ec-9bef-aa3112940013?shareToken=72ae1131089923914acaa130b0cfb60b

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TeamRex · 01/11/2021 12:34

I think it started because before committing crimes people might have a number of these incidents occur and the idea is the police could do community work to head off actual crimes.

The problem is that it's a very dodgy system at the moment that can be abused to get reports recorded against people they disagree with.

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seventyfits · 01/11/2021 12:19

I had no idea this happened. It sounds like there's no need for proof, because it's not a crime...in which case why are the police involved? They are supposed to be enforcers not makers of the law, but in these cases it's police officers, not law makers, judges or magistrates, who are deciding whether someone's thoughts are acceptable.

TeamRex · 01/11/2021 12:13

They are recording these things specifically as non-crimes. So a person can have a series of incidents recorded against their name when they haven't done anything illegal.

The police simply record what the reporter says happened, no evidence is needed and they do no checks to see it it's true. And they are under no obligation to tell the person that this has been recorded against their name.

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Vanishun · 01/11/2021 12:09

It's madness that police are recording thoughts (or rather, accusations of thoughts) as actual crimes. It's stasi stuff and witch-hunting all over again but in a modern British format.

It's also noticeable that one of the few things that isn't recorded anywhere is sexism too - this tells you everything about the powers that be.

Having said this, as I said on the other thread, you could record these as motivations for actual crimes when they're provable to track incidents if you want to.

TeamRex · 01/11/2021 11:58

It seems to me like we're far too complacent when it comes to this type of surveillance.

How to we get the balance between the police having intelligence on people who may go on to commit crimes?

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TeamRex · 01/11/2021 11:53

Thread to discuss the pros and cons of the police recording non-crime hate incidents.

Please don't include actual crimes,

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