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Trans activism on retreat - Sarah Ditum, Sunday Times

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Igneococcus · 31/10/2021 06:09

I do hope she is right:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/3422b888-39a5-11ec-a14e-75e3a4bcdc4c?shareToken=ae8e96e0285845775f46c996b8eb4b6b

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MoltenLasagne · 31/10/2021 07:14

The tide seems to be turning in England, I fear the SNP are more determined to push it through in Scotland.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/10/2021 07:12

Thanks for the share token. I hope she's right. Long way to go to return to sanity, though, esp on other side of the Atlantic. Just read a shocking tweet about a US family where both parents are transitioning, 5yo son is terribly upset and mother's reaction is he needs intensive therapy to come to terms with it. A few short years ago everybody would have seen that this child is being let down very badly and social services needed to step in. I doubt they can now. When we can be confident that UK social services would intervene to protect a similar child, I'll accept the tide has turned.

Trans activism on retreat - Sarah Ditum, Sunday Times
IrisAtwood · 31/10/2021 07:12

Excellent piece. Thanks for sharing.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair · 31/10/2021 07:08

For the proponents of gender ideology, being cool and reasonable only makes a woman more dangerous: if she can’t be dismissed as a raging hysteric, people may even listen to her.

This bit resonated for me particularly, both in relation to Stock and also FiLiA recently. I hope more and more previously-unengaged people are able to see this aggressive hounding of moderate, respectful feminists for what it is.

GromblesofGrimbledon · 31/10/2021 07:02

"The child transition charity Mermaids..."

Grin

Excellent article. Gives me hope.

The tide does seem to be turning. I hope that everything fizzles out before most people are even aware that any of this nonsense ever happened.

lampback · 31/10/2021 06:55

Thank you for sharing this very well written article

duvet · 31/10/2021 06:42

Yeah thanks for sharing.
I was awake at silly o clock & been watching this debate

There's a part 2 & 3.

Rightsraptor · 31/10/2021 06:39

'Serious politicians (and Keir Starmer) ...' Grin

oldwomanwhoruns · 31/10/2021 06:26

Ooh, and I like her succinct description of mermaids. Think that I'd get a deletion for repeating it here though.

Thx for sharing, OP.

Hungry675tf · 31/10/2021 06:20

Thank you for sharing

Vanishun · 31/10/2021 06:19

Thanks for the share token. I like this quote:

"Suffragists were called termagants; second wavers were called bitches; and anyone who argues for women’s rights today is called a Terf and defined as a fair target for harassment. Trans activists say they want to break the gender-binary norm, but their actions say they’re happiest when they’re breaking individual women."

Personally, I think it's too optimistic to assume it's all going to be okay from here, but it would be nice to think that we've moved past "no debate" at least!

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 31/10/2021 06:19

An awful lot of direct action by the trans movement consists of shouting at women...

With blissful brevity, Sarah Ditum nails it.