Trans activism on retreat - Sarah Ditum, Sunday Times

Is it worth remembering that a Canadian psychiatrist (wrongly) got fired for allegedly practicing ‘conversion therapy’ when he suggested parents first affirm their child’s natal sex. Isn’t that what could happen here?

Thanks for the share token, OP.

Maybe the devolved and reserved powers need to be revisited in certain areas
From your lips to the goddess' ears!

Another voice of scepticism for.. I don't think the tide is turning as I’m reading a document about my organisation that states we need to be inclusive of "trans and LGBTQUA+ people". Is it telling that trans gets to be mentioned twice? Neither gay and… or bi and… or lesbian and …get a second mention. Maybe a Freudian slip of a keyboard? However, overall, it seems that language and practice is getting more attention, not less.

A conference held by the organisation Woman’s Place UK on female prisoners last week was picketed by trans activists calling the women inside fat, ugly and old. Who knew that 1970s working men’s club comedians were writing the script for the gender revolution all along?

Can I just say how envious I am of your UK feminist writers? Last week I was utterly disappointed by my former favorite US writers, Amanda Marcotte (Salon) and Michelle Goldberg (NYTimes) who both decided to slut shame a 14-year old girl who was raped. They used phrases like "meeting up for sex... as kids do," and using "relationship violence" as a way to soften rape.

Thanks for leading the way.

Serious politicians (and Keir Starmer) 😂

She packs so many fabulous lines into that piece. I must say though that it doesn't feel in retreat in Scotland at all, it feels like/is the establishment - glad things are better south of the border though!

Sarah's column was so well done!
That poor 5yo though. I have a 5yo and she is still so, so young.

Yep, there is absolutely no 'middle ground' when it comes to TRAs.

Quite true, but just the fact that there is sudden talk of this mythical entity suggests some people have seen that the tide that has buoyed them up for so long is starting to recede

I would imagine a lot of ordinary people, reading the recent 'cotton ceiling' piece, would view Hayton as a good representative of 'the reasonable middle ground'.
Well, a lot of women have some reservations about Hayton, but nothing like what comes from the trans activist side - on a Twitter thread by robin the barrister which appeared to equate the bbc coverage of abused lesbians with Goebbels, Hayton was referred to as 'Quisling'. (Not merely 'a quisling').
I thought it was rather telling.

The Times is just so biased these days against any reasonable middle ground, that it is hard to take them seriously. Just a propaganda machine IMHO stirring up minority issues to sell copy.

Yep, there is absolutely no 'middle ground' when it comes to TRAs.

The disgusting abuse thrown at Margaret Attwood when she dared to share something which wasn't 100% TWAW a couple of weeks ago illustrated that quite nicely.

Great post @Whatsnewpussyhat.

The Times is just so biased these days against any reasonable middle ground, that it is hard to take them seriously. Just a propaganda machine IMHO stirring up minority issues to sell copy

Don't pretend there is a any reasonable middle ground from TRAs.

It is also not a 'minority issue' when all legal protections of half the population to have male free spaces, services and sports, and the right to name ourselves and advocate for our unique needs as women, a separate and distinct class from men, removed, just because a tiny subset of males demand it as they think their subjective unprovable feelings of 'gender' matter more than the sex based reality and continued oppression of females.

Their male entitlement, pretend oppression, and male violence and sexual aggression aimed at women who dare to point out the truth is very telling. I mean, all those thousands of 'women' sending JKR threats of rape with the male penis they claim is a harmless lady sex organ. So oppressed.

Yeah. That kid. My heart breaks for him.

And he's being told by authority figures that it's his issue, he needs therapy, he needs to change, he needs to monitor his language etc. Awful.

That poor little boy. His mum is changing to be a "man" and his dad a "woman", by the sound of it. How disorienting.

Like most people, I assume all news sources are biased in some way. It's a given, I take that into account.

What I then do is try and establish whether a given event or fact is true or not.
Essentially I'm always looking for things that prove me/ an article wrong.
I know much of what is stated there is true.
I also ask a lot of questions to establish the other side's position.
They are repeatedly ignored by genderists to the point I can only conclude they don't know the answers or that they are unpalatable.

You've had your #nodebate for a few years now MishyJDI. What it gave us was a toxic situation manifesting largely with hatred directed at women. It looks like #debate is now having a turn.

Uh huh. It's the Times that is unethical. Not the ones making toddlers transition because they like the wrong kind of toys and clothes.

The Times is just so biased these days against any reasonable middle ground, that it is hard to take them seriously. Just a propaganda machine IMHO stirring up minority issues to sell copy.

I guess that is how they survive in today's world, but what an unethical business to be in.

"There seems little point at this stage in pretending trans activism is anything other than a respectable cover for misogyny."

It's a feature, not a bug.

She is only talking about England though. Things are abysmal in Wales and Scotland.

I do wonder though if the 'conversion therapy bill' will lead to talk of 'genital preferences' being seen as the 'shaming people out of same sex attraction' homophobia that it is.