Intergender MMA fight

It is crazy how this myth has taken off. The idea of equality is surely that women have equality of worth.

That women have the same intrinsic value as human beings as men, regardless of physical differences (and ignoring the many unscientific prejudices that men made up to discredit women). Not that we have to be identical or better to be equally valued.

In our family, our daughter is by far the strongest, stronger than dad or her (taller) brother

How is this being measured? Deadlift personal best? Number of swimming pool lengths? How many wooden boards she can punch through?

the other female fighters

How do you know they are cis?

What are you blethering on about?

[quote Journeyofthedragons]There's a famous video clip where the female interviewee just won't accept that men are genetially physically stronger than women (cut to 2.50)

There's a famous video clip where the female interviewee just won't accept that men are genetially physically stronger than women (cut to 2.50)

Yeah I don’t reckon youre wrong weedonkey

but we are talking about a subset of MMA fighters, i.e. women who will be at the stronger end of the spectrum, not a "class".

Interestingly enough, male MMA fighters are at the strong end of their spectrum, too.

And men punch over 2.5 times harder than women.

This means that for a technically talented fighter in her class, trying to block a male competitor may be like trying to block a oncoming JCB. He can just push through her block.

but we are talking about a subset of MMA fighters, i.e. women who will be at the stronger end of the spectrum, not a "class"

A) the thread is talking about all sorts of people believing that women are as strong as men…not just about the MMA fighter

B) the male subset of MMA fighters is stronger than the female subset of MMA fighters

Obvs

Ill be honest ive got absolutely no patience whatsoever with people who think that as a class women are just as strong as men

Or women just don’t try hard enough at sports to beat men

Those people are so fucking stupid im surprised that they can walk and breathe at the same time

I try very, very hard on here to be polite and not call people stupid but this is s step too far for me

Also, cis female MMA fighters were asked

Cis female?

(Obviously he is much stronger than me…)

It is a dangerous myth. I remember catching the post win interview with Laura Kenny and Katie Archibald after winning gold in the Maddison, thanking the junior boys team for letting them train with them.

They knew that they couldn’t train with their equivalents in the men’s team but with a much younger age group and they are exceptional cyclists.

We are not physically equal and this should be acknowledged.

Oh yeah?

Fallon Fox came out as transgender after one amateur fight and two professional fights.

I wonder if men trued a bit harder would they actually be able to grow a little human being inside them and push it out..... 😂😂

But actually, why on Earth would they!!

I wonder if women did work a bit harder, maybe we could be as tall as men as well?

You know what? A lot of self preservation is rudeness. And Lord knows, no one wants to be seen to be rude!!!!

This is the crux of it. We are so conditioned to want to be seen as lovely. The worst thing someone could say about us is that we are a rude cow. We’d rather let ourselves get into a chokehold with a man and have to scratch and kick him than tell him to fuck off from a distance that’s fucked up.

Be as rude as you need to be.

EarthSight - loads of women I know seem to be confident that they can beat a man in an arm wrestle, and proud of it. But I know that in any type of physical contest a man will generally hold back for fear of hurting a female opponent, even if sub consciously. That's if they don't want to hurt a woman, of course.....

RachelHasThoseInBurgundy my little brother gave up teaching self defense, because the women in his class just didn't like what he was teaching them. They would say, how do you get out of a choke hold? He would say, you can't. Just don't get put in a choke hold. Walk on the opposite side of the road to a man if you are alone, don't be frightened to yell out 'keep away', etc....

You know what? A lot of self preservation is rudeness. And Lord knows, no one wants to be seen to be rude!!!!

Of course, the absolute best bit of self defense advice that every instructor I know gives on the first lesson is to walk away from a fight. That can be the hardest thing. Training in martial arts can give you false confidence, an idea that you can handle yourself in any situation, but if someone tried to rob me at knife point I would give them everything I had and walk away....

Absolutely. I did some Krav Maga self defence training for women and the male instructor was very clear- most men will over power you- do all you can to get away before it gets to that point. He was very big on training your gut instinct (first tool) and your assertiveness (second tool) as being more important than training how to get out of a chokehold. And this is how the guy makes his living- training Krav Maga- but he was telling us straight- ultimately it probably won’t stop you getting hurt if a man wants to hurt you.