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Is this Deputy head accused of rape a man or woman?

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MissyB1 · 29/10/2021 14:39

Genuinely confused. BBC report on their website today - sorry can never successfully link from their app.
It’s about a school deputy head from Wigan called Julie Morris who is in court on child abuse and sex abuse charges - including two counts of rape. Her co accused is a man called David Morris. They are both accused of a horrific string of crimes, but it specifically says Julie is accused of rape.
Correct me if I’m getting this wrong but can women be charged with rape? I didn’t think so, but maybe they can if it relates to a child? 🤔

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IHateCoronavirus · 29/10/2021 15:02

I really struggle to get my head around cases like this, where two people harm someone together. How on earth does that happen? Is it a case of like attracts like? I just don’t get how somebody meets another person and gets to the point of ‘hey let’s go rape/kill/torture…’ but it happens. Look at all the poor children who have died horrific deaths at the hands of their family recently. I just don’t get it!

BaronessEllarawrosaurus · 29/10/2021 15:01

They are probably a couple, the report states they are not related ie the same surname is a fluke but it doesn't state they are not in a relationship

bagofconkers · 29/10/2021 15:00

@MissyB1

They have the same surname and were doing this together they must be couple surely? Or sister and brother maybe?
Article says "David Morris, who is not related to her"
MissyB1 · 29/10/2021 14:58

They have the same surname and were doing this together they must be couple surely? Or sister and brother maybe?

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NChat · 29/10/2021 14:57

The earlier linked story says "aiding and abetting"
www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-58501937

Chicchicchicchiclana · 29/10/2021 14:50

"They are not a couple" really?

MissyB1 · 29/10/2021 14:48

Aaah ok it sounds like she was helping him commit rape then. Poor reporting I think. What a revolting pair of human beings.

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Rightsraptor · 29/10/2021 14:47

I'd imagine it's the journalist confusing the issue, perhaps unknowingly but they should know if they report on such crimes. Lazy reporting.

Ghostsintheshelf · 29/10/2021 14:45

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-59091476

The man has admitted to the rapes. I presume she helped him.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/10/2021 14:43

They are not a couple.

Some of the news reports describe her charges as aiding and abetting rape, rather than rape.

PigeonLittle · 29/10/2021 14:42

I also got confused. I think I read they have different amounts of rape charges so I thought it was a couple.

Youdonthavetobegood · 29/10/2021 14:42

Oh weirdly I just read that and thought the same. I thought that by definition rape can only be committed by someone with a penis? So she has a penis? Unless the law has been updated. I'm not sure

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 29/10/2021 14:40

I think women can be charged with rape if they "assist" e.g. hold someone down.