Kathleen Stock has resigned

Haha Grumpy! "Give me some money you complete and utter bastard" iirc. It was comedy, not a how to guide.

Seems to have made an impression on Harry Josie Giles though, who I couldn't finish reading for laughing.

Such a shame, I hate seeing bullies win but I understand why she resigned, she was very brave to last as long as she did.

Could someone answer a question?

What is considered to be the "worst" thing professor Stock has ever said or written?
I mean in the eyes of those who wanted her silenced.
Obviously there is nothing that could ever justify death threats etc. But I want to know the full picture. I have seen her accused of transphobia, but those accusing her of it rarely provide specific examples. So what is the most "controversial" thing she has said? I want to really understand what the activists mean when they accuse her of transphobia (my suspicion is a lot of those slinging the term around don't even know what she is supposed to have said, the accusation of transphobia is enough for them - but that's an assumption based on my own bias, perhaps).

it made me think of The Young Ones writing to the bank manager:

These are in a similar vein:

https://twitter.com/Labour_Trans/status/1226939313264394241?s=20

https://edinburghath.tumblr.com/post/163521055802/trans-health-manifesto/amp

And this spectacular article from TRA Harry Josie Giles who I believe is involved with the two groups I've mentioned above:

https://harryjosiegiles.medium.com/wages-for-transition-dce2b246b9b7

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@BraveBananaBadge, it made me think of The Young Ones writing to the bank manager: 'Dear bully-boy fascist capitalist pig-dog crushing the working people' or whatever it was.

Except that TYOs were satire and were funny.

"Renowned cisgender man" just says it all doesn't it. "Cis' is actually a bad thing in itself, and a term of abuse, that's what they really think. Only identifying as trans makes you really acceptable, to whoever wrote that. As munroe bergdorf said, it's a form of divinity. Trans ideology (as opposed to trans people, who are not all like this) really is about a sacred caste and it's a cult religion where the crime of people like stock is simply daring not to be in it. And when you're inside something like that, you can't see it.

The thing is, many of these extreme TRAs realise that men who aren't trans have power in society. Some of them pre-transition fully bought into MRA/evo psych notions of "alpha and beta males" wolf packs etc.

So when they think they are better than men, they know it's not borne out in society. They also know their actions only minimally affect men. It's women they can have power over. It's women's rights they can control.

My late dad was fond of a dad joke, "Jamaica? No she left of her own accord" and that will forever make me smile.

I don't blame her. Best wishes and solidarity, Professor.

Thank you for all you do MargaritaPie. I'm truly grateful.

Please, let’s hear more from the campaign to eject Dr Stock. Lots more!

It’s so…professional and reasoned. Really convincing. It’ll certainly help people understand the issue.

🤪

"Renowned cisgender man" just says it all doesn't it. "Cis' is actually a bad thing in itself, and a term of abuse, that's what they really think. Only identifying as trans makes you really acceptable, to whoever wrote that. As munroe bergdorf said, it's a form of divinity. Trans ideology (as opposed to trans people, who are not all like this) really is about a sacred caste and it's a cult religion where the crime of people like stock is simply daring not to be in it. And when you're inside something like that, you can't see it.

[quote MargaritaPie]This is the statement given by the Instagram page if anyone's interested in hearing the students' views on this.

www.instagram.com/p/CVlRyn3gcrs/[/quote]
Unhinged bullies

I expect Margareta Pie had a hand in the charming Instagram piece.how dare she come on here and gloat?
l also really hope book sales will go up hugely for Kathleen Stock and that she finds an institution where she is valued and protected adequately. Small comfort to see the tide is turning at last.
Solidarity to her.

God that’s horrible that they are smug and proud about it. Ugh. It’s weird that they can’t see that their approach is totalitarianism and a bad thing, but I guess that’s what a paucity of education does for you.

Stock only gave a different view from them and is open to debate, she didn’t try to shut down other views, have anyone removed or persecute anyone. Discussing the reality of biology is not persecution or transphobia. If it was, there wouldn’t be lots of trans people who support and agree with her,

Yet they can’t see that trying to completely destroy someone for disagreeing with you on you evidence-free beliefs is a morally worse way to be, and has terrible implications for everyone.

Describing Adam Tickell as "renowned cisgender man" gave me a giggle though, although I wouldn't want to be marking their essays.

I was asking myself what kind of person would be glad to see a woman harassed and bullied out of her job for her political opinions, who could be so utterly clueless about the basics of how civilised, pluralistic, democratic societies should operate….and then there you were, Margarita, clearing it all up for me.

I am going to be laughing about the “constructive dismissal? But she left of her own accord” line all day, so thanks for that. In the real world, where people have real jobs, legal due process and protections apply. They apply equally to people you don’t like as people you do. Most decent people will be rightfully horrified at this, so as someone said upthread, it’s likely to be a Pyhrric victory (which no doubt these ideological bullies have never heard of either, along with the importance of the rule of law).

Wishing Dr Stock all the very best for the future. If a settlement has already happened, I hope it was huge. And if it’s still to come, I wish you every success with it.

Lol

And you think that isn’t full of hate?!

How can you say that? Look at the penultimate paragraph: "We acted as a community built on solidarity and love."

There it is in black and white.

(Just like the Ministry of Love.)

[quote MargaritaPie]This is the statement given by the Instagram page if anyone's interested in hearing the students' views on this.

www.instagram.com/p/CVlRyn3gcrs/[/quote]
And you think that isn’t full of hate?!

That statement is a complete embarrassment. Makes Rik from the Young Ones look like a veritable guru. "A community of love", they say. A squally bunch of intellectually and emotionally stunted tinpot terrorists, more like. I would not want my children anywhere near Sussex University as it very much looks like students today come out of it stupider than when they go in, in all ways.

Solidarity and all best wishes with Prof Stock. What has happened is a disgrace.

I would like to thank the students and staff of Sussex University who spoke up and raised concerns regarding her views and her association with the controversial LGB Alliance.

I think you're getting mixed up, it's Stonewall that is controversial that more and more organisations are pulling out of and who are sounding a bit rapey by claiming that lesbians sexual orientation is akin to racism.

Comment piece in the Times:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4fb3fc04-3821-11ec-b83a-bd8490b9f48d?shareToken=a71c3dd2e09f95750a6fa7ccb0986c0f

I'm so sad about this although I understand the reasons for her decision completely. I hope she can recover from the stress of it. Shame on Sussex uni for not doing more to investigate and expel the "students" who absolutely terrorised her.