Kathleen Stock has resigned

I don't understand the "we're paying for it" bit. One of the reasons for picking a private school over a state school was knowing it would be far easier for the school to get rid of disruptive pupils hence my own little darling had to toe the line too. Paying for his education never led me to think I could dictate terms to the school.

But this is not the way that UK universities work. Universities such as Sussex recruit students (they do not easily fill all their places) & they need to aim for high student satisfaction (NSS scores) as satisfaction scores affect their league table positions. Students can have much more influence on universities like Sussex than they would have on selective private schools.

It is much easier for universities like Oxford and Cambridge to push back on student demands as they are heavily over-subscribed and do not need to care so much about student satisfaction.

One of the reasons for picking a private school over a state school was knowing it would be far easier for the school to get rid of disruptive pupils hence my own little darling had to toe the line too. Paying for his education never led me to think I could dictate terms to the school.

The Germans would say you've issued yourself a damning Armutszeignis there.

I see Kemi Badenoch has spoken sensibly and compassionately about this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10149859/Equalities-minister-Kemi-Badenoch-says-appalled-treatment-Kathleen-Stock.html

Our politicians in Labour and Lib Dims are yet again siding with domestic terrorists. Very depressing

Yes Christmas. It's the definition of a pyrrhic victory.

I hope the students' victory at Sussex will mean students at other Universities will speak up if they have concerns regarding a professor who has hateful views.

And I hope any gender critical staff avail themselves of the Forstater judgement when asking their university to take action to stop them being bullied, terrorised and harassed by students or other staff members.

Exactly Christmas. You have nasty violent male extremists making death threats towards women, intimidating them and causing them to need security guards or police to go to work or a conference, and you're trying to explain that they're in the right!?

It just shows how far people will go in their desperate scrabbling around not to be called a bigot (by the people who are the violent extremists, misogynists and homophobes themselves).

If you're not on board with this extreme, unscientific ideology, that doesn't make you a bigot. That's what they tell you to keep you in line because they know there's nothing a hand-wringing "be kind" lefty liberal fears more.

There are actual transphobic bigots out there who will beat people up for being trans. Have you never wondered why they don't get this treatment?

Masked men in balaclavas waving smoke bombs at terrified lesbians. That's what you've achieved here. I cannot understand why those who have some sway over this movement don't reign it the fuck in before absolutely everything you want to achieve goes down the toilet.

It's long been noted, that for some people, there is no achievement desired other than goading women.

Certainly the abuse women are being subjected to is an end itself.

Fortunately it will hasten the demise of the entire ideology.

I can't believe you can't see the damage that this is doing to your cause. It's a monumental defeat for trans activism. You think it's a victory because you wanted a professor to resign from Sussex uni and she has? That's your long game?

Masked men in balaclavas waving smoke bombs at terrified lesbians. That's what you've achieved here. I cannot understand why those who have some sway over this movement don't reign it the fuck in before absolutely everything you want to achieve goes down the toilet.

Great that they're not though For us I mean. And actually for Kathleen in the long term although I wouldn't wish what is happening to her right now on anyone. But her career is made.

Although it does say at the end "Rachel Cooke is an Observer columnist".

And a friend tells me it's in the print version of the Observer today.

As you were, then.

Goady.

A glossary of Margarita-speak:
Victory = hounding a lesbian out of her job
Speak up = protests, posters and credible threats to the point that the victim was advised by police not to go on campus
Hateful views = stating scientific fact about sex

All very Newspeak, innit?

Great to see that from Rachel Cooke. I thought she was probably one of us - she did that very good interview with David Bell.

The Observer, of course. They seem to be a bit more clued up than the Guardian.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/30/kathleen-stock-departure-shows-universities-cant-cope-with-argument

How profoundly depressing to hear that the philosopher Kathleen Stock has effectively been hounded from her chair at Sussex University by the mob. However brilliant her career in the future – and there is no doubting that it will be – it’s hard to see her departure as anything other than a victory for the bullies and anti-intellectuals

[quote ScreamingMeMeSawUs]From Sarah Phillimore:

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Sussex Police haven't said anything about the investigation have they?
Unrelated to the Instagram account, was there any other comment on the harassment Stock was subjected to?

Two takeaways from the i article:

• 'we're paying for this' so they have to do what we want
• the belief the uni has "chosen" "not to do the right thing" by not bending to them.

I am sorry to hear this. This must have been unbearable.

for Kathleen

Protests were all peaceful and non threatening were they?

Masked men and flares vs. "I don't believe gender identity trumps biological sex"

Mmmm!

[quote YawningAngel]I don't know how to post this as a proper link, but the harrassers now appear to be complaining that the University have made them out to be horrid meanies.

inews.co.uk/news/education/kathleen-stock-trans-transgender-students-sussex-university-powerful-political-operators-1262958[/quote]
The DARVO on display!

Oh! It worked this time. Cool.

I don't know how to post this as a proper link, but the harrassers now appear to be complaining that the University have made them out to be horrid meanies.

inews.co.uk/news/education/kathleen-stock-trans-transgender-students-sussex-university-powerful-political-operators-1262958