Kathleen Stock has resigned

And Trevor Phillips:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/c79bc0e2-3a80-11ec-9bef-aa3112940013?shareToken=b7c827cbc38d60b787035ee39d63fb8a

In the Times, go Kemi:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/e97c9512-3a7e-11ec-9bef-aa3112940013?shareToken=968c692192c43a9c6b8276d83c1f4b48

I am glad to see that Stonewall have at least done one positive thing. The other tweets on that page are horrible.

Yet again not any actual words from
margarita on what exactly Prof Stock has said or done that is hateful or wrong.

Just obfuscation, side stepping and mysterious 'allusions'.

Can't honestly give you any serious engagement in an adult debate.

There was a piece in the Times about Helena Kennedy's work to evacuate those women and their families. The women's work has put them in grave danger: Afghan female judges rescued by Baroness Kennedy

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/bd538350-398a-11ec-869f-027d769ad087?shareToken=62ab0edf3572813c9666850c423f28f4

Are we supposed to be impressed Stonewall is actually doing what it's meant to re Afghanistan? If they would stick to that instead of eroding the rights of women in general and lesbians in particular we'd all still be supporting them. The founders and members who have subsequently left to form LGBA would still have been with them.

BTW, If anyone wants to support getting some women in dire need out of Afghanistan see Helena Kennedy's campaign

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4386953-Help-needed-for-Afghan-women-judges-lawyers-activists-escaping-Taliban

Flibberty, all I'm going to say is that there is more than 1 side of the debate on that matter.

You could attempt to explain what you think is wrong with what Stock has said, but that would require forming a coherent argument rather than just throwing out a slur, and would probably clear up any doubt about your homophobia and misogyny, so I can understand your reticence. I’m sure MNHQ wouldn’t delete a post that genuinely attempted to debate Stock’s position, with words and arguments and so on.

Fantastic work by stonewall and glad to hear about Rainbow Road too. It's noticeable that practical aspects of Stonewall's work such as Stonewall Housing look far more pragmatic and more valuable than its multilevel marketing scheme for performative bureaucrats. I also look at student activists in balaclavas hounding lesbian teachers, again in the UK, and wonder how on earth an organisation with good perspective on the global situation gets it so wrong here.

inews.co.uk/news/world/afghanistan-evacuation-lgbt-people-afghan-rescued-taliban-arrive-uk-1275695

And Stonewall's tweet: twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1454350575110344707

@Flibberty, all I'm going to say is that there is more than 1 side of the debate on that matter.

You said that the professor held "hateful views". Seems that MNHQ do not agree. Please don't hesitate to contact them direct for an explanation.

Best not repeat what your deleted post said. HTH.

Can you link to some information about the evacuation from Afghanistan? I heard this mentioned a couple of weeks,ago, but I couldn't find any reports.
TIA.

Not sure why my post was deleted. What I said is fact and can be easily verified.

MargaritaPie

<strong>"I hope they get better at identifying hate"</strong>

Ms Stock is a trustee of the LGB Alliance. Non?

Say you're a misogynist and homophobe without saying you're a misogynist and homophobe.

I am a bit confused about how you can be GC radfems of university age though, as we know all those who believe TWATW are rights hoarding dinosaurs who will be dead soon?

I'm involved in the radfem community on Tumblr and have just proposed an initiative over there (currently called #Stockathon) where as many of us as possible will read and live-blog/discuss Material Girls, hopefully starting over the next few months. Those of us who are interested will also look into her other published work. This is my intro post if you're interested.

I wonder how MNers would feel about extending the initiative over here in some way? The Tumblr GC community felt like the ideal setting for this as many of us are university-aged (and this whole affair was about 'protecting' university students from certain speech), but it would be brilliant if it reached Mumsnet and twitter too. I'm especially interested in getting some intergenerational solidarity going. Not sure how it would work logistically (on Tumblr we'll just post anything relevant and use the tag to find each other) - let me know if you're interested though!

I've also been inspired to donate to the LGB Alliance too as a result of the hateful spurious wordvom on this thread.

MargaritaPie - you`ll have to do a lot better than that if you want to insinuate that KS is a hateful transphobe. Your claim doesnt bear any scrutiny. You just reminded me to give a second donation to the LGB Alliance by the way - good to know that someone is standing up for lesbians.

Couldn't see this posted anywhere?
www.aol.co.uk/news/equalities-minister-condemns-abuse-professor-121659337.html

This is what Kathleen Stock says about trans people.

“Trans people are trans people. We should get over it. They deserve to be safe, to be visible throughout society without shame or stigma, and to have exactly the life opportunities non-trans people do.”

Can you explain what is hateful about this statement @MargaritaPie?