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Am I a feminist now?

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vera16 · 26/10/2021 11:29

I have always defined myself as 'not a feminist'. However I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the pressure to accept gender idealogies which has spurred me into a bit of research on the subject. I have come to the following conclusions in my own mind:

  • I class myself as a liberal person, believe in equality, and don't care how other people label themselves, but I do not want to or see the need to change how I identify. I am a woman and a mother and do not want to labelled otherwise.
  • I don't believe self-ID should become law as I don't believe biological sex can be changed. Leading on to...
  • Biological sex classifications is important in protecting women's safe spaces and also for creating fairness e.g. in sports. Leading on to...
  • Women require safe spaces because they are not on an equal footing with men with regards to strength and tendancy towards physical aggression
  • I don't want to tell people what my preferred pronouns are. To me the whole thing is an idealogy in the same was as religion, and not one I believe in, so I don't feel I should even be encouraged to participate. I work with many foreign colleagues and sometimes need to ask how I should refer to them. No problems so far.

And, perhaps more controversially, I myself do not always fit a standard family structure when it comes to medical records, form filling etc. But hey ho, I know it is difficult to account for everybody, so I just get on with it. I don't ask for the forms or the systems to be changed to make me feel more comfortable.

There must be many others like me? i.e. women who do not label themselves as feminist, or who just haven't really thought whether they are or not, but who would support the gender critical argument if the facts were put before them.

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Floisme · 26/10/2021 12:00

I believe you can call yourself whatever you like but that you cannot control how other people perceive you. I find this applies many walks of life.

KittenKong · 26/10/2021 11:59

You may think ‘I’m not a feminist’ but do you believe that women are weaker and inferior? That they should defer to males on al things? That their lives are less valuable that the penis peoples? They women have less potential and should have fewer opportunities?

Hoardasurass · 26/10/2021 11:58

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Santastuckincustoms · 26/10/2021 11:57

I teach students who say they're not feminist. I ask them "so you would be happy for the male student sitting beside you to be paid more than you for the same work?" And bam, suddenly they are feminist.

ListeningToSnow · 26/10/2021 11:54

Me too. I'd never especially labelled myself a feminist, and a lot of the feminist topics and figureheads of recent years didn't hugely resonate with me for various reasons. I'm not saying that was right or wrong (I think some of it I'd now be able to describe as an aversion to chattering class lib-fem ideas, but I don't necessarily agree with everything that comes under rad-fem either), but I don't think I was unusual in that regard.

This topic has really, really resonated with me, and made me think. It's challenged a lot of my lazy assumptions, and given me a clear passion for the protection and dignity of women, children, truth, reality and so on.

I still don't particularly go about calling myself a feminist, as it's a term that can mean so many different things to different people, and I'm not interested in getting drawn into arguments about what a feminist should or shouldn't think. I'm much more interested in learning about (reality-based) feminism though, and women's experiences throughout history and the world. And I've so much respect for the feminists on this board and elsewhere.

ParmigianoReggiano · 26/10/2021 11:53

But yes, I would say you are a feminist now Smile

ParmigianoReggiano · 26/10/2021 11:52

Just out of interest, why did you previously define yourself as not a feminist? It just means equality for women.

MishyJDI · 26/10/2021 11:50

Language evolves over time to fit society's need and understanding of itself. I don't think anyone is seriously trying to remove terms such as women, men, etc but add to them with additional inclusive language. Which to my mind is a good thing.