For the Attention of Posters in the "bloody terf" thread

We’d be wading through much less dog shit than we are currently.

There are post-GRS trans women that you wouldn't be able to tell are "male" even if you had then stripped naked

I don't believe this, you can't change a person's size nor the shape and positioning of their pelvis and legs. Women can distinguish sex much better than many TW would like to think before the observation even reaches our conscious thought.

To insist to use masculine pronouns to refer to trans women is to forcefully shove them into the "male" box against their will, a box they made an extensive effort to leave.

what's in the 'male' box that they don't like? why did you need to leave it?

@PurgatoryOfPotholes
So, you're saying that this trapping consists of using sex-based pronouns?

Pretty much. To insist to use masculine pronouns to refer to trans women is to forcefully shove them into the "male" box against their will, a box they made an extensive effort to leave.

I don't care how much space you think there is inside the box, stop pushing people into boxes they don't want to be in.

You're making a false assumption that it's about "stereotypes" or "expectations", when it simply is not.

Aside from names and pronouns, what does being a woman actually mean? How would one know?

You can't blame people for guessing and making assumptions when they're struggling to understand gender identity and are simply told "it's not this" and "it's not that".

If identity is all about the name you use, then I'm a badly spelled pokemon, weak to ground types. Pika/pika.

Thats good to know @BloodinGutters. Does your dogs understanding of humanity have anything to do with sausages?

[quote AlfonsoTheUnrepetant]@SillyStrings423, if your posts are made in the forest and no one reads them, are they still gibberish?

I'll answer that for you: yes.

Your posts belong to the membership class of ridiculous nonsense words strung together in a haphazard way.[/quote]

I've been googling alien conspiracy theories @BloodinGutters but it's a surprisingly weak seam for nonsense compared to the rich, fresh stream of ordure we're being treated to here

sorry

Identifying as different gender than the one assigned at birth is what makes someone trans.

But I thought it was really difficult to tell which sex class everyone was in?

But a transwoman is someone who is of the sex class of male (including penis, testicles etc) who identifies as a woman. So we do know which sex class people are in? Because you said it's really difficult to tell?

How someone can identify as a woman while simultaniously having no understanding or care of women or women's lives is breathtaking.

I mean I've seen it all before but its still quite something to see.

and the circle of nonsense is complete...

I mean, my entire point is that I do not believe in restrictive categories. There isn't much to the labels of "man" and "woman", because the entire point is that they should be chosen identities.

Only someone who has never faced oppression due to a biological sex that they are unable to identify their way out of would say something like this. It's so insulting to oppressed women to say that there 'isn't much to the labels of man and woman'. To those women, those labels mean a hell of a lot!

If membership to a sex class is defined by gametes, then someone who produces neither belongs in neither.

Incorrect.

If they still belong to a sex class, that means their membership is defined by something other than gametes.

Incorrect.

If someone is infertile, then the sort of fertility treatment they need will depend on their sex.

Professor Winston is a pioneer of fertility treatment due to his amazing ability to figure out who needs what sort of treatment.

Clearly you'd be rubbish at it.

@SillyStrings423, if your posts are made in the forest and no one reads them, are they still gibberish?

I'll answer that for you: yes.

Your posts belong to the membership class of ridiculous nonsense words strung together in a haphazard way.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes
"Finally. Is there anything else to it?"

I mean, my entire point is that I do not believe in restrictive categories. There isn't much to the labels of "man" and "woman", because the entire point is that they should be chosen identities.

I'm sure you want some gotcha about "stereotypes", but that's the thing, I don't believe a man or a woman needs to be a specific way to be one.

If they still belong to a sex class, that means their membership is defined by something other than gametes.

What makes a transwoman 'trans' then? If they don't know which sex class they are in to start with?

Mate, the women here aren't going to be gaslighted into believing that biological sex is some kind of 'grey area' and gender identity is set in stone.

[quote BernardBlackMissesLangCleg]@SillyStrings423

how did irish surgeons (ireland again, they are cards there eh?) know which people to perform Symphysiotomies on?

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/dec/12/symphysiotomy-irelands-brutal-alternative-to-caesareans

hope no men slipped through the net![/quote]
Fuck me!!!!!

You think you've heard it all. Every day is a school day

If they still belong to a sex class, that means their membership is defined by something other than gametes.