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For the Attention of Posters in the "bloody terf" thread

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 24/10/2021 18:04

So we can stop disrupting the OP's thread, and continue the discussion here.

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BrandineDelRoy · 25/10/2021 21:20

@BrandineDelRoy

Maybe things we (as biological women) have had to do or have observed in a public restroom/toilet/changing room should be it's own thread?
"Its own."

No apostrophe. That poor apostrophe.

BrandineDelRoy · 25/10/2021 21:18

Maybe things we (as biological women) have had to do or have observed in a public restroom/toilet/changing room should be it's own thread?

BrandineDelRoy · 25/10/2021 21:14

@BloodinGutters

* copy righted term
They're good enough for your queen! I'm just saying. (I'm a proud wiener dog owner).
BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 21:10
  • copy righted term
BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 21:09

@BrandineDelRoy

Exactly how can a dauchshund or a corgi reach high enough to bite the sausage?

Please remember the practicalities of this scheme. It is prosed to fix our human problems that have risen above material reality and because theoretical fluffy inner essences. If the crotchsniffpups* scheme doesn’t meet the needs of material reality then the crotchsnifferpups will then need to delegate the practicalities to another lowly species that remains limited by biological reality. It could get very meta.

BrandineDelRoy · 25/10/2021 21:03

@ArabellaScott

Gold lame?
That's a good one...

All dogs should be dachshunds. Or corgis.

BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 20:57

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

So your after a transage puppy? I’ll have to check the terms of the sniffer pup agreement. But as long as it can sniff and bite your probably good.

ArabellaScott · 25/10/2021 20:52

Gold lame?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 25/10/2021 20:47

@BloodinGutters

So *@PurgatoryOfPotholes* what breed of puppy would you like arranged for you?

And would you like the pink bow variety or the I’ll-hump-your-face-while-you-sleep variety? (I have one of these, while he belongs to this sex class he doesn’t actually do this. However that’s not a sign he in fact belongs to the sex class that wears sparkly pink bows and is throughly humiliated when his junior humans try to assign him to performing the sex role stereotypes of the pink bow variety. And then he eats the bows).

A elderly gold retriever. Even if it's lame.
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Alektopteryx · 25/10/2021 20:43

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee

Interesting conversations about periods! I always carry spare pants and have done since 11. Anyone who is surprised by that has either never had a period or never had a heavy one. You can't wear the bloody pants as they would be so heavy with blood it would drip down your leg and through clothes. I frequently had large blood clots land on the floor. When you took the tampon out everything backed up behind it came flying out too. Of course you were aiming for all that to land in the toilet but blood clot aiming is a very tricky art. Anyone who wants to say there are no dignity issues with sharing facilities should at least be realistic about what the issues actually are.

Yes. Flooding episodes at work are difficult enough to manage. I don't think they're something that can be dealt with without a sink.

BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 20:42

So @PurgatoryOfPotholes what breed of puppy would you like arranged for you?

And would you like the pink bow variety or the I’ll-hump-your-face-while-you-sleep variety? (I have one of these, while he belongs to this sex class he doesn’t actually do this. However that’s not a sign he in fact belongs to the sex class that wears sparkly pink bows and is throughly humiliated when his junior humans try to assign him to performing the sex role stereotypes of the pink bow variety. And then he eats the bows).

mammajustkilledagnat · 25/10/2021 20:40

I've had to try and wash blood out of the back of a skirt before, and then used a coat/cardigan tied around the waist to hide the patch. Rare, but it has happened. More common is having blood on my hands that needs washing off. It is embarrassing for me that other women see this, I cannot imagine what it would be like for males to be present.

BrandineDelRoy · 25/10/2021 20:32

@Whatiswrongwithmyknee

Interesting conversations about periods! I always carry spare pants and have done since 11. Anyone who is surprised by that has either never had a period or never had a heavy one. You can't wear the bloody pants as they would be so heavy with blood it would drip down your leg and through clothes. I frequently had large blood clots land on the floor. When you took the tampon out everything backed up behind it came flying out too. Of course you were aiming for all that to land in the toilet but blood clot aiming is a very tricky art. Anyone who wants to say there are no dignity issues with sharing facilities should at least be realistic about what the issues actually are.
Thank you for saying this.
BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 20:32

[quote OldCrone]And while I theoretically imagined I might be far more interested in what female transpeople have to say, in practice the Freddies and Whittles and Mortons of the world have actively surprised and unnerved me with their self absorbed misogyny.

They're the ones who take 'not like other girls' to extremes. This link, posted earlier by the OP sums it up.

culturallyboundgender.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/to-be-different-from-other-girls-on-misogyny-inside-and-out/[/quote]
There’s the women declaring they love twaw, giggles.

And the women declaring they aren’t women.

Both are different versions of the I’m not like other girls trope.

I did both at different times as a teen/young adult in some form. Long before all this. They have my sympathy.

But the fucking grown up women who know this is a crock of shit and say nothing make me angry. I understand the fear involved in hiding from this also. But when it’s teachers or social workers or hcp or other adults in a position of power over children and who have a responsibility to safeguard them I feel stuck at rage for failing to safeguard children.

All kinds of enraged at men about this too. The knowing ones and the ones with the privilege of ignorance. But I’m also not surprised at them. The women who do know better and who are knowingly failing children anyways feel like the worst betrayal.

*sorry me-railing tangent ranting.

ArabellaScott · 25/10/2021 20:28

@allmywhat

Can’t help translating that Twitter exchange as

“Help! Can anyone come up with a good answer to this question for me? Not that it matters because only stupid people would ask this question.”

“uhhh, uhh I don’t know, ummm, uhhh, gosh, et, social categories, lol how stupid that person is for asking this question! It’s like she can’t even see the Emperor’s shimmering cloak.”

My, Emperor, what a big cloak you have!
Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 25/10/2021 20:22

Interesting conversations about periods! I always carry spare pants and have done since 11. Anyone who is surprised by that has either never had a period or never had a heavy one. You can't wear the bloody pants as they would be so heavy with blood it would drip down your leg and through clothes. I frequently had large blood clots land on the floor. When you took the tampon out everything backed up behind it came flying out too. Of course you were aiming for all that to land in the toilet but blood clot aiming is a very tricky art. Anyone who wants to say there are no dignity issues with sharing facilities should at least be realistic about what the issues actually are.

OldCrone · 25/10/2021 20:14

And while I theoretically imagined I might be far more interested in what female transpeople have to say, in practice the Freddies and Whittles and Mortons of the world have actively surprised and unnerved me with their self absorbed misogyny.

They're the ones who take 'not like other girls' to extremes. This link, posted earlier by the OP sums it up.

culturallyboundgender.wordpress.com/2015/05/20/to-be-different-from-other-girls-on-misogyny-inside-and-out/

BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 20:14

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

Can I choose what breed I get?
As long as you understand it must be a real dog. We are not allowing transhandbag dogs.
BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 20:12

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

And while I theoretically imagined I might be far more interested in what female transpeople have to say, in practice the Freddies and Whittles and Mortons of the world have actively surprised and unnerved me with their self absorbed misogyny.

yup. somehow that attitude is more disappointing from a woman. which i know is just another flavour of holding women to higher standards.

but still

They think they can escape misogyny by being male.

Which kinda sounds like the most super special version of ‘I’m not like other girls, I’m a cool girl’ trope.

BrandineDelRoy · 25/10/2021 20:11

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Blood soaked sanitary pads get changed in the cubicle though, why would you be seen doing that? You change it and put it in the sanitary bin, behind closed doors. As for underwear, do people wash them out in the sinks in the ladies? Never seen that, and even if people do, how many people carry around spare underwear with them at all times? Surely it would make more sense to change pads and get clean underwear when you get home, as washing them out in the sink would just make you have soggy pants.
I've been thinking more about this one. I can honestly say I've never washed blood off underwear in a communal sink. I did have a blood clot fall out of my pad and on the restroom floor when I was 12. 😬

However, I did to deal with milk leaking and staining my shirt while pregnant and breastfeeding quite a number of times. I needed a mirror to wash and sort things out. I would have been mortified doing this in front of a male person of any gender.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 25/10/2021 20:11

Can I choose what breed I get?

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BloodinGutters · 25/10/2021 20:10

WILL NO ONE EVER LISTEN TO ME!?

I’m going to again propose we get together a petition to lobby for a sniffer dog per person, to crotch sniff and inform their humans which other humans belong to the sex class that commits violence and which belongs to the sex class that doesn’t.

You dogist bigots (we know allergies are just a socially constructed binary) will just have to get over it.

Humans with our superior expanded identities have risen above such basic facts, but a lowly species like canines still demean such elementary instincts.

Added bonus is they rather like sausage and will be quite happy chopping on a similar ish appendage if the member of the sex class that commits violence were to take it out around a member of the sex class that doesn’t.*

*we don’t need to add that in the petition though.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 25/10/2021 20:00

And while I theoretically imagined I might be far more interested in what female transpeople have to say, in practice the Freddies and Whittles and Mortons of the world have actively surprised and unnerved me with their self absorbed misogyny.

yup. somehow that attitude is more disappointing from a woman. which i know is just another flavour of holding women to higher standards.

but still

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 25/10/2021 19:57

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I'm famous! Grin

No-one on Twitter seems to want to describe what it's a social category of, beyond declaring it a category. Sadly.

twitter.com/setoacnna/status/1452578446501158915?t=qH712jF5OFrIDMroRPZDEg&s=19

Fortunately, SillyStrings423 explained. It's sex-based pronouns and whether your forename is more usually a female name or a male name, according to SillyStrings.

literally none of them can explain it
  • what do all members of this category have in common? (no circular logic now!)
  • how can we tell if someone is not a member of this category?

but I'm glad knowing the phrase 'social category' is giving everyone a warm glow of superiority

Alektopteryx · 25/10/2021 19:55

I would say I'm surprised that they didn't pay you the basic courtesy of obscuring your username PurgatoryOfPotholes before they tweeted it to their >8.5k followers, but it would be a lie so I won't.