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Judith Butler in The Guardian

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generaljake · 23/10/2021 23:26

Goodness. Not sure what I’m allowed to say without being banned but this is … interesting.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/commentisfree/2021/oct/23/judith-butler-gender-ideology-backlash

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BraveBananaBadge · 23/10/2021 23:49

To be honest that's the first time I've read Judith Butler's work rather than about her as an interview subject, and oh boy. I wish I hadn't.

Scraggythang · 23/10/2021 23:48

It doesn’t matter how many words you use, the reason there’s a backlash is because it’s a crock of shit, Judith.

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2021 23:47

newrepublic.com/article/150687/professor-parody

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 23/10/2021 23:47

@PowerNap

I had the impression that JB is minded that it takes at least a PhD in a specific field to understand her work and arguments and that is why so many people find that her work lacks consistency or coherence.

Fwiw I do have an actual PhD (and an MA and a 1st class BA) in Critical Theory, have taught queer theory & gender studies at three UK universities, and I still think she's talking total bollocks.

The remark about classism was from a previous thread about Butler:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a4342776-judith-butler-interview?msgid=110596015

I'm forming the impression that if we only have a notional 4000 weeks of life, I'd be wasting them trying to make sense of Butler.

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2021 23:45

Wheeling this old fave out:

PowerNap · 23/10/2021 23:43

I had the impression that JB is minded that it takes at least a PhD in a specific field to understand her work and arguments and that is why so many people find that her work lacks consistency or coherence.

Fwiw I do have an actual PhD (and an MA and a 1st class BA) in Critical Theory, have taught queer theory & gender studies at three UK universities, and I still think she's talking total bollocks.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 23/10/2021 23:36

It is not easy to fully reconstruct the arguments used by the anti-gender ideology movement because they do not hold themselves to standards of consistency or coherence.

I had the impression that JB is minded that it takes at least a PhD in a specific field to understand her work and arguments and that is why so many people find that her work lacks consistency or coherence.

That is why it makes no sense for “gender critical” feminists to ally with reactionary powers in targeting trans, non-binary, and genderqueer people. Let’s all get truly critical now, for this is no time for any of the targets of this movement to be turning against one another. The time for anti-fascist solidarity is now.

How very entertaining. It's almost as if she hasn't noticed who is responsible for changes to legislation and the infiltration of organisations that are responsible for policy that is nudging us along the path to authoritarianism.