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"Trans Criminals are not Women" says Priti Patel

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Fluffymule · 23/10/2021 22:21

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10124021/Priti-Patel-orders-woke-police-stop-recording-offences-trans-women-female-crime-stats.html

I thought this was interesting.

So, what's the TRA argument against this going to be? Surely a backlash against this ruling from the Home Secretary by insisting these criminals, including rapists must by named as Women would simply shine huge amounts of sunlight on an unpalatable issue?

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Dinosauria · 23/10/2021 22:57

@Warmduscher

Finding common ground with Priti Patel is proper doing my head in.
And mine. It adds to my general angst that the only party that appears to believe in my sex rights is the only party I would never choose to vote for.
DuckDuckNo · 23/10/2021 22:56

So we remove them after the offence, and any unlucky woman or girl on the receiving end of an attack is just collateral damage in the Be Kind stricture?

Exactly. "Oops - that one was a rapist again. Neeeeeext!"

ItsRainingProstateOwners · 23/10/2021 22:55

Fantastic news.

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2021 22:54

If 'common ground' is 'women in prison don't deserve to be at risk of rape' then yes, I have common ground.

Igmum · 23/10/2021 22:53

Thank you Spindel - your comments are a relief. And thank goodness. Well done Priti Patel.

LizzieSiddal · 23/10/2021 22:53

I’d really love someone to ask Kier Stammer what he thinks about this change to recording crimes.

SpindelWhorl · 23/10/2021 22:50

@Warmduscher

Finding common ground with Priti Patel is proper doing my head in.
I do not find common ground with Priti Patel.

She simply agrees with me, quite rightly, on this self-evident issue of human rights for women and accurate data collection. If Keir Starmer and his front bench don't, they're dangerous idiots.

But I do not align with Priti Patel, thank you.

GingerAndTheBiscuits · 23/10/2021 22:48

I think that 400+ figure may include some joint enterprise prosecutions and possibly also other forms of penetration? Trying to find original reporting of the figure

GreyhoundG1rl · 23/10/2021 22:43

@JudyGemstone

I’ve been doing some thinking and I think maybe I’m ok with transwomen in female spaces until it comes to any trans women who have offended, especially against women/children
So we remove them after the offence, and any unlucky woman or girl on the receiving end of an attack is just collateral damage in the Be Kind stricture? No.
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Fluffymule · 23/10/2021 22:42

@FreeBritnee

This is why the conservatives will stay in power. They are the only party that have the balls to voice an unpopular opinion.
Although I'd argue there's few who would find unpopular the opinion that 'rapists with penises should be charged and recorded as male'.
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MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/10/2021 22:41

This will be interesting. Much sunlight about to be shed about alarming data and the consequences of identifying male born sex offenders and paedophiles as women.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 23/10/2021 22:41

Good news. And about bloody time!

Warmduscher · 23/10/2021 22:41

Finding common ground with Priti Patel is proper doing my head in.

SpindelWhorl · 23/10/2021 22:40

@FreeBritnee

This is why the conservatives will stay in power. They are the only party that have the balls to voice an unpopular opinion.
It's hardly an unpopular opinion then.
FreeBritnee · 23/10/2021 22:38

This is why the conservatives will stay in power. They are the only party that have the balls to voice an unpopular opinion.

SpindelWhorl · 23/10/2021 22:38

@JudyGemstone

I’ve been doing some thinking and I think maybe I’m ok with transwomen in female spaces until it comes to any trans women who have offended, especially against women/children
That's not the basis of our well established safeguarding procedures though.

Men should not be in women's and girls' private spaces. The ones who want to be are a massive red flag.

Cactu · 23/10/2021 22:37

Sorry 436

FannyCann · 23/10/2021 22:36

Cross post Ducky

Cactu · 23/10/2021 22:36

There are estimated to be 200-500,000 trans people in the UK (male and female). We know 423 transwomen have been convicted of rape alone since 2013. Rates of offending are extremely high within this group. Why is this just being brushed under the carpet?

FannyCann · 23/10/2021 22:36

436 rapists recorded as women. That would be women with a penis as in law rape requires a penis. Shock

Duckyneedsaclean · 23/10/2021 22:36

I just came on to see if someone had posted this.
436 rapists recorded as women! Now all in women's prisons I suppose? I wonder what they're getting up to there.

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2021 22:35

Priti: If they're not women, get them out of women's prisons.

ArabellaScott · 23/10/2021 22:34

@JudyGemstone

I’ve been doing some thinking and I think maybe I’m ok with transwomen in female spaces until it comes to any trans women who have offended, especially against women/children
And how will we know?
JudyGemstone · 23/10/2021 22:33

But of course women need to feel safe. So don’t think there should be self id.

JudyGemstone · 23/10/2021 22:31

I’ve been doing some thinking and I think maybe I’m ok with transwomen in female spaces until it comes to any trans women who have offended, especially against women/children