Girls night in Campaign targeted for not being inclusive

Thanks erish. Did google and was word salads everywhere

Another one here in despair.

When will someone, anyone, have the courage to say "we've listened to the feedback that we've got this wrong and respectfully disagree. People who disagree with us are welcome to set up their own xyz thing, and we wish them luck."?!

Let’s all have a night in now.

They kinda don’t understand that a message or campaign has to be clear to get people behind your campaign

So your mates. Girls night in. Clear. And your mates might look at the campaign as it is clear who it’s for

Now. Durham night in

Mmmm

"Anti carceral" is where feminists get guilt tripped that it's wrong to want to send rapists to prison.

thecritic.co.uk/issues/june-2021/putting-women-last/

@mustlovegin I meant say NO they're not going to change their name, change their platform.

Girls are seemingly not even allowed a night in anymore.

This is just beyond ridiculous. Gah I can't even form words about it.

So girls can’t even have a night in now?

That’s the muddle left wing politics is in at the moment and why no one (sane) votes for it on Election Day.
Young women can’t ask for help to protect them as they are not allowed to identify that women get affected by this and that one of the answers is more security/ police as left wing politics want to “defund the police”
This is where that statement leads.

To be fair I think I’d feel pretty distressed if I was carrying drugs with the intent of incapacitating for the purpose of rape and I knew I was going to be searched.

huge eye roll

it takes great courage to stand up and say NO

But it's a girls night in. Nobody would deplatform them in their own homes. This is all getting very muddled indeed

Yep. I am getting really down about all this now. How can people not see that All Lives Matter is not acceptable for black people but game on for women. That black fishing is not acceptable (self identifying as a different ethnicity) but game on for women. WHY CANT PEOPLE SEE THIS.

we felt that adding more security checks could potentially add more violence and be weaponised against marginalised communities

What is this madness? Nobody in their right mind would attend a venue without security in place!

Next time they will try to 'campaign' against security at airports because it could 'marginalise' some. This is insane!

This has given me the absolute rage.

Regardless of whether the protest was the best way forward or not, how fucking dare they make it all about them and distract from the real problem.

We can't even assume the organisers want to cave to this nonsense, it takes great courage to stand up and say NO, and lots of women will be worried about the consequences of doing so.

I understand this is a call to temporarily boycott venues and is not to tell women they cannot go out without a male companion. It was to be a means to try to create a level of safety by showing venues that women are customers worthy of being listened to.

Misaimed iniative? maybe. I would think it could work though.

However, the bullying this group have received is to be abhorred. And that list of attributes to prove inclusivity? Ridiculous. Anti-carceral? Fuck off. Young women will end up with nothing but pleading for males to be respectful to them and will glow with the knowledge they were at least ‘kind’.

Durham night in sounds like a zoom quiz

And will have to google anti carceral

They didn’t mention being anti ageist

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The depressing thing about all this is how these women are lacking a robust feminist analysis. Feminism explains what is happening and why. Men are spiking women out of sexual entitlement and to intimidate the female sex. But instead we now have some garbled crap about people attacking all people in general, which blurs the focus of what is really going on here. And we can’t actually do anything like increased searches or body pat downs in case this offends or hurts someone else’s feelings. Women aren’t being allowed to prioritise themselves and putting everyone else’s needs first is regarded as a virtue. I’m just so despairing about this - I feel we have gone backwards. In the second wave women could point to misogynistic behaviour and say “this is totally unacceptable” and demand it to be criminalised. Now … it’s like women don’t have even know how to stick up for themselves.

That is absolutely shameful. Who would look at what this - clearly named - campaign is all about and immediately condemn and bully them for not being inclusive enough of those who face "more violence". To make them feel obliged to say they are "anti-carceral" in the face of some of the most brutal crimes women can be victim of? Oh and "pro-sex work" as well because of course. This is just hateful.

What's not clear is what the bars and nightclubs are supposed to do, if they can't increase security. You are just left with women staying at home.

The woman who organised this campaign said initially she’d contacted all the nightclubs in her university City and very few had even bothered to get back to her, the rest said they could not do anything. That’s when they came up with the boycotting idea. They want the clubs to use tops&straws on all drinks, more CCTV, and more training for staff so they didn’t automatically think women were just drunk, when they collapsed in clubs. Pretty basic things really!

What is wrong with these young women? They just have no idea that they are being victims because of their sex. Their perpetrators have no idea how they identify when they slip something into their drinks but they sure as hell can tell that they are female. I filled out an online survey the other day by an MA student looking into feelings of safety in public spaces and she asked only one question on sex/gender which was how do you identify. Of course I went on a big rant about the fact that women are more vulnerable because of our sex and nothing to do with how we identify. And that I didn't have a gender identity thank you very much. We have done our young women a disservice not to tell them they need feminism because of their sex. Sigh.

Christ’s SAKE.

I’m actually really fucking hitting a wall with all this today.

These poor young women - and young men. Being on the receiving end of all this crap. Having to self censor every word - even when facing assault and abuse. Having to advocate for "anti carceral" bullshit that would allow every rapist, paedophile and abuser to walk free for ever?

It's enraging and terrifying in equal measures to watch young women being silenced, frightened and intimidated - harangued and pushed out of the public space.

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine this was my feeling too. Is the next event going to be 'Only Leave The House With A Male Relative Night?'

Even the news reports and media discussions have been depressingly familiar - Richard Madely asking what a woman had done to stop her drink being spiked, others implying that its women's fault for leaving home in possession of a vagina.

Spiking drinks was an issue when I went to clubs 25 years ago. The fact we are still dealing with this shit is infuriating and depressing.