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The Times view on Stonewall and corporate diversity guidelines 22/10/21

41 replies

Gastonia · 22/10/2021 22:04

I presume this Times leader is for Saturday's print paper, as it is timed at 9pm today.
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-times-view-on-stonewall-and-corporate-diversity-guidelines-6kpjqh3wj
I can't work out how to get a share token, but it says: "Today The Times reports on the newest foray into corporate boardrooms under the misleading guise of breaking the gender glass ceiling." So maybe there'll be more in tomorrow's paper.

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Blessex · 23/10/2021 07:54

But is no one else terrified? Is this now going into law?

BunnyBerries · 23/10/2021 02:37

Buying this tomorrow for the "keep" pile Grin Brew

Scraggythang · 23/10/2021 01:03

Brilliant. I’m still holding out for the “public enquiry into stonewall” on the front pages, but this is one step closer.

KeyErro · 23/10/2021 00:58

The Times has had some really good, thoughtful coverage recently.
Janice Turner is always excellent and Libby Purves and Sarah Ditum are superb.
They had an editorial last week on the harassment of Kathleen Stock and aren't afraid to take on Stonewall.
I'm bloody grateful.

NomNomNominativeDeterminism · 23/10/2021 00:44

Biggest firms may stop recording sex of bosses

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/73804c9a-3368-11ec-820f-e2be9b2cb5fd?shareToken=26c9243481590b05e5d3251fbfb0b276

Article in the news section

Blessex · 23/10/2021 00:39

Am in tears

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/10/2021 23:27

Blimey. Good stuff.

ahagwearsapointybonnet · 22/10/2021 23:19

Hurray! I hope there's a good punchy, prominent news article to go with it tomorrow as well. (Though it could do with some proofreading, it refers to the "Equality Law 2010" and there's an "as" missing too. But that's just my inner pedant coming out, I'm still really pleased to see this. Sunlight!).

FemaleAndLearning · 22/10/2021 23:12

A lot of people just don't get the gender identity thing. These articles are really useful in showing what happens when we don't use biological sex.

DevonTF · 22/10/2021 23:05

Great article. Loving that the press are reporting properly. Not the anti woke stuff, but proper factual reporting. Calling Stonewall liars without using the word liars. Nice.

BlaydonRaces · 22/10/2021 22:49

Thanks for the share token. I wish The Times had published this a couple of days ago when the FCA consultation was still open so more people could have contributed.

ARoombaOfOnesOwn · 22/10/2021 22:43

The Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), which regulates the financial industry, has drawn up diversity guidelines. These would require every company listed on FTSE indices to declare the percentage of women serving as board members. The new rules, however, do not require that companies declare their board members’ legal or biological sex but their gender identity, regardless of when in their career they adopted it. Using this new definition, the FCA is now recommending that 40 per cent of boards should be women.

This was predicted on MN - TW will help meet quotas of women on boards, no need for actual women.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 22/10/2021 22:39

Yes, it is an editorial but it is also factual and direct.

We need more reporting like this. Please!

Gastonia · 22/10/2021 22:33

Thank you for sorting out the share token! Yes, great to see!

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Alektopteryx · 22/10/2021 22:20

It seems pretty bracing to me. They're certainly not pulling any punches!

But what some have described as a Stonewall “takeover” of the FCA has been led by an executive director who is also Stonewall’s longest-serving trustee.

And

But [Stonewall’s] transition from fearless campaigner to ideological bully appears complete. Its grip over others must now be broken.

Alektopteryx · 22/10/2021 22:09

Thanks OP. Going back to read it now.

The Times view on Stonewall and corporate diversity guidelines

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4fb9c99e-336d-11ec-820f-e2be9b2cb5fd?shareToken=2d3af999e2266693cfd087e9669e0090