Boris Johnson backs Kathleen Stock and LGB Alliance in trans rights row

One of the things I hate most about this whole debate is having to side with people like Nick Ferrari, Carole Malone, and now Boris fucking Johnson. Ugh

This represents the massive sea change in public opinion in recent months. I've sometimes thought that women don't have to do much more than shed sunlight on the extreme demands from so many adherents of this ideology. Not just the batshit demands but the levels of anti democratic, anti safeguarding demands along with the continual bullying of women. The Nolan podcasts are a perfect example of how once you uncover what's underneath it's evident to most people that the demands are not compatible with a democratic society.
This is chickens coming home to roost.

Even a stopped clock…

I am so pleased to hear this....I know LGB Alliance and Stonewall were both at the recent Tory party conference. I would expect Johnson to support free speech and in speaking out on this, it makes me feel better about the Tories continuing to stand firm against self-id and generally getting the worst stuff rolled back.
I was a bit miffed when he said 'people with endometriosis' with regard to poor David Amess but given the tragedy not appropriate for me to put on a thread.

Bj is not quite as dense as everyone believes him to be. He can do math and realises what might secure votes.

Exactly. He knows what is not a vote winner.

Bj is not quite as dense as everyone believes him to be. He can do math and realises what might secure votes. Of course if that involved saying he would suck a tw cock he would say that. But the math shows it doesn’t.

*I should add the disclaimer that bj knows to pay big bucks to people who know math and can tell him what will get him most votes. It maybe optimistic to suggest he can figure this out himself.

** paying out the big bucks to the counting peoples who tell him where he’d get most votes still makes him bigger in the brain than the opposition at present.

As I've said elsewhere, I'm expecting a clarification or a leak from Carrie's allies.

Carrie Johnson, the prime minister’s wife, delivered a speech at a rival event hosted by the LGBT+ Conservatives in partnership with Stonewall, where campaigners attacked the decision to allow the LGB Alliance to set up a stall at the conference. They argued that “trans people’s rights to exist is not a topic that is up for discussion”.

I could not be more pleased if I were to proved wrong. The more time that elapses for Margaret Atwood, the more pleased that I am for my expectation to have been wrong for her as I thought she'd walk it back/apologise/pledge herself to re-education within 24 hours.

The other thing that I would be delighted to be wrong about would be the continued use of the argument that anyone is questioning anyone's rights to exist - that has been a gratuitous rhetorical device and abhorrent frame for a very long time.

Okay, then.

As usual, thank you for the share token igneo.

hmm
this man is outside my 'even a broken clock..,' parameters

Well, well, well.

I would dearly love to have been a fly on the wall at number 10

Well, that's something I suppose.

The UK has a prime minister who despite being a (insert chosen derogatory term) and has _ (insert long list of examples of total ineptitude and disaster), does understand the basic tenets of living in a pluralistic society.

FFS, Murdo Fraser read and liked Helen Joyce, now Boris is doing something decent...