Outcome of my company asking everyone to add pronouns to signatures

That's great. We've been encouraged to add ours to our email sign-offs too. Thankfully it's not mandatory. If it becomes compulsory I will add my pronouns as 'my name is Anna...so please just use your best guess'

This is great

Ours is voluntary, I've only seen it on one. But I'm not sure what IT tools would be in place to work out what the actual percentage of people who have done is - how do you do that?

If ours insists, I'm simply going to add "Ms" because it gets up my nose that everyone calls me Mrs when I'm a Ms, even my bloody doctor, so I'll say that will do in place and being called Mrs is triggering for me.

I just don't understand it at all. If you present as a gender then people assume you are that gender, so surely putting pronouns is for when your presentation is ambiguous, which surely you don't want attention drawn to? But also, pronouns are only used when you are not in the vicinity, so why do you care what people call you behind your back?
And if you're doing it because you're non binary, well firstly that isn't a sex class, secondly who cares? Thirdly why do you want everyone to know?

I don't really buy the unconscious bias against women, mainly because I have a female name so people know from that I'm a woman. Tempted to put "he/him" and ask for my pay rise!

"To which our D&I Committee assured me that everyone would definitely definitely do it cos it’s the right thing to do etc etc"

"And so funny that the D&I team are so out of touch with what people really think."

Because they live in a bubble.

That's fantastic, well done!

In real life ime-

The massively vast majority think

It's utter bollocks
It's shit for women
Otherwise just not really interested

The idea that most agree with it all Inc prisons sport etc is just totally detached from reality.

It's certainly groups a fair bit of media. Activists. And loads of politicians. Universities. Etc.

Pushing it reinforcing to each other. Making lots of noise. They seem to be unaware. That the idea it's a topic of interest to public and most are in favour of fucking over women. Is just ludicrously totally wrong.

Great work op.

But schadenfreude aside, it's very irritating when someone makes fake discrimination claims like this because it lends legitimacy to those who claim that people are "playing the [whatever] card". The vast majority of the time, when people point out prejudiced or discriminatory behaviour, it's an actual problem, even if it's something that wouldn't have been noticeable to those not in the group affected. The more often someone brings a complaint about discrimination that turns out to be patent bollocks, the more difficult it's going to make it for someone to report actual subtle racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or other discriminatory behaviour and be taken seriously.

Omg amazing @McOrange and @snoopyfloops

Thank you for this cheering news and your amazing ninja missioning!

@Libraryghost I plan this tactic as do not talk about my awareness of the issues at work.

Lines that are true that I will ask if discussions arise...but I haven't changed anything, I'm a woman so don't think this means me, but men use urinals, but I need to use the sanitary bins / change my mooncup, what about our visitors who include children and safeguarding. See the squirming to practical questions.

I got asked what my pronouns were at work. I genuinely had no fucking idea what anyone was talking about. I kept saying ‘ of course I am a woman, do I look like a bloke to you’?’ ‘They??? How can anyone be a ‘they’? ‘That’s grammatical bollocks surely?’ I felt like I had landed in an alternative universe. I have never been asked again and you could see from the squirming faces THEY were embarrassed, not me. I was genuinely thick in this instance but my advice is even if you know what they are talking about - act thick.

Brilliant women all!

Really good news OP.

I also work for a large organisation and have seen 7 people using pronouns in signatures. From this, 3 are in E, D& I, 2 in HR and 2 are not great at reading the room and bandwagon types.

In one meeting a colleague had pronouns in zoom name, another noted this, and first colleague sighed and said she thought she had taken it off. She had clearly done it to appease a group somewhere. There is little clear audible chat about the trans issues, but there is talk about 'woke' issues preventing discussion and debate.

I was delighted when I received my NHS letter to remind me to book smear test last week, it referred to women needing the test and said I could ask for a female clinician. Amazing relief to see normality.

I spoke to some younger people today and casually asked if they were going to do it and they all said no, it’s bollocks, no interest etc

My hope for the future has been partially restored. Excellent news.

Sexuality?! Where do you work, Tinder?

My organisation has just encouraged everyone to add their personal pronouns. I'm very heartened by the fact that one of the senior men who's very involved in the LGBQT+ network hasn't changed his email signature. I think it's helped give lots of people the courage to ignore it

Yes I think it would infringe human rights to insist on this, especially sexuality! I mean, who on earth needs to know that in a professional setting?!

I may as well write:

Piapiano
Senior arsewipe

Likes cats and reading in trees
Thinks the Guardian has poor journalism
Born by caesarian section
Has a wooden leg

Well done Op and @snoopyfloops

Declare my sexuality? In my email signature?

Tbh I spent a year accidentally having an email signature that didn't include the name of the organisation I work for and I don't think anyone noticed

Sexuality? Seriously? Wow. that's got to be an infringement, surely?

Sexuality! Bloody hell.

Well done OP!

At our place it was 'voluntary' to declare our sexuality, gender identity and pronouns - but the kind of voluntary where they set a task with a deadline and keep reminding you. It's been heartening to see how ridiculous and cringeworthy people are finding it, including recent graduates.