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Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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FindTheTruth · 15/11/2021 10:50

GMC allegations sheet

Harrop MPTS Hearing
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BoreOfWhabylon · 15/11/2021 10:21
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Ekofisk · 15/11/2021 10:20

Live Tweeting has started at @tribunaltweets

JustcameoutGC · 13/11/2021 20:25

I hope Posie has a front row seat, with a t shirt with Woman Adult Human Female on one side and Mr Harrop on the other

SoniaFouler · 13/11/2021 18:45

Excellent point @FannyCann

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/11/2021 12:30

Good point @FannyCann. I wonder if his tweets about cocaine and chemsex were reported?

I think there may be some witnesses, I remember HarryTheOwl tweeting that he'd been asked to provide a statement about the effect on him and his family. I imagine others were directly affected too.

Signalbox · 13/11/2021 12:15

It's quite a long hearing just for tweets.
It's not the sort of case where you have lengthy expert witness reports. But presumably there will be witnesses who were targeted by Harrop's tweeting behaviour. I suppose many of the tweets might have a context that would need explaining. Some probably just speak for themselves.

FannyCann · 13/11/2021 11:51

I also wonder if they will confine themselves just to his tweets or consider his wider use of twitter. In one of my complaints I sent to his training supervisor I pointed out that the sheer volume of his tweets meant he must surely have been checking his phone or perhaps having the twitter window open on his computer between every patient or even having a sneaky look during a consultation.
And some of his tweets were so angry - would he just switch off the rage and turn on the charm and sympathy when the next patient came in?
I suppose that would be out of the remit of the enquiry but an examination of the times and frequency of his tweets compared with his work schedule would certainly be interesting.

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/11/2021 11:43

Yes, as @Signalbox says, it's the same volunteer account that brought us the reporting on Webberley. I'm not involved in any way.

Agree that this should be much more straightforward. I wonder if it will involve much reading out of tweets? I do hope it gets some press coverage.

Hoardasurass · 13/11/2021 11:25

It's about time that man faced the consequences of his actions

SocialConnection · 13/11/2021 10:31

I. Cannot. Wait.

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Signalbox · 13/11/2021 09:56

[quote Motorina]@BoreOfWhabylon ohhh good stuff. I’ll make sure and follow that.

Who is the person live tweeting, do we know? Do they understand regulatory law?[/quote]
It's the same account that was set up to follow the Webberley hearing.

The tweeting was carried out by multiple volunteers because it was so long. I don't think any of them had any particular expertise, just doing the best they could to follow what was going on.

I think Harrop's case should be quite straightforward in comparison.

Motorina · 13/11/2021 08:59

@BoreOfWhabylon ohhh good stuff. I’ll make sure and follow that.

Who is the person live tweeting, do we know? Do they understand regulatory law?

BoreOfWhabylon · 13/11/2021 03:33

There will be live tweeting from the tribunal

twitter.com/tribunaltweets/status/1459318368792678407?s=20

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 12/11/2021 15:10

Thanks, Awkwardy.

Interesting timing, what with the drama with Stonewall champions being in the media.

Awkwardy · 12/11/2021 13:24

Bumping as the hearing starts on Monday.

Rose1957 · 31/10/2021 06:31

Well all health professionals have a code of conduct and are required to be moderate in public with their political opinions. All health professionals know this.

FannyCann · 22/10/2021 18:29

I wonder if Mumsnet will be referenced in the evidence. Grin
I can't think of anyone else who has been the subject of so many threads here.

Motorina · 22/10/2021 18:21

@nauticant, that really did make me giggle. There's one spectacularly robust woman barrister of a certain age, who I probably shouldn't name, who has something of a suffer no fools reputation. The thought of her defending him has just made me snort tea out of my nose in delight.

I mean, it probably won't be her, but the thought it might just makes me happy.

I wish I could go and watch!

(@AlfonsoTheDinosaur - my pleasure.)

nauticant · 22/10/2021 17:57

His barrister might even be a c**-person!

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 22/10/2021 17:56

@Motorina, I am in awe of your knowledge. Really. It is great.

Motorina · 22/10/2021 17:48

This is all pure speculation, but...

The way medical indemnity works is you pick a company when you're a student. On reputation, or cost, or who has the best freebies (because students...) You pay them yearly and, like house insurance, tend to stick to them unless something goes wrong.

They will have their own in house solicitors. Who will chose the barrister who is to represent their client on the basis of their experience and relevance to the case (and probably - don't know - old boys network.)

Those barristers are invariably specialists in regulatory work.

The doctor normally doesn't get to pick which barrister is used.

So if he is represented by an, uhhhh, alternative barrister that means:

  1. He's likely paying for it himself.
  2. He's probably had a fall out with the legal team his indemnity has appointed, probably over a disagreement on broad strategy.

The natural consequences of that are:

  1. He's an idiot
  2. He's planning on arguing that he's a martyr for the trans cause.

Personally, I think it's unlikely. I reckon he'll be represented perfectly conventionally by a regulatory barrister.

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 22/10/2021 14:55

I suspect that the litigious lawyer will be advising but not leading. And that the defence will consist of going on the offence about all the big ol' meanies who bullied and harasssed Harrop and forced him in to a corner and made him write those tweets.

Scraggythang · 22/10/2021 08:43

@Maskless how dare you! they say they are, so they must be!

Motorina · 22/10/2021 07:42

No restrictions on rights of audience in tribunals. He can be represented by Kermit the Frog if he wants to be.

He’s be mad to be represented by anyone who isn’t experienced in regulatory law, though. Tribunals are different in purpose than criminal courts and he’ll be at a disadvantage if his brief doesn’t understand that.

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