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Harrop MPTS Hearing

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 19/10/2021 16:18

I thought this may be of interest:

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/medical-practitioners-tribunals/dr-adrian-harrop-nov-21

The tribunal will inquire into the allegation that from 10 May 2018 to 23 November 2019, Dr Harrop inappropriately used his Twitter account to post tweets that were offensive and/or insulting and/or inappropriate in nature and some of which were intended to intimidate.

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PronounssheRa · 18/11/2021 08:37

Adrian wants to be important

I agree with this, he has for a long time tried to establish a media career, he has jumped from cause to cause and political party to political party in an attempt to gain traction somewhere.

Catching up on yesterday's tweets am I right in reading that Harrop has admitted a number of the allegations and the next step is for the tribunal to look at the ones that are to be determined?

Awkwardy · 18/11/2021 08:37

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EsmaCannonball · 18/11/2021 08:36

Ben Hunte is great. Definitely a radical feminist sleeper agent.

Fariha31 · 18/11/2021 08:32

@Mummyoflittledragon

Thank you for so many insightful posts. So now we wait to see if the to be determined allegations are found and proved. I do hope so. Sadly if it were the case, there would be one less doctor in the country. But it would send a big message to men that women are not toys and property.
I seriously dont think AH should be practicing. He seems to have no boundaries and zero understanding of the implications of his proffession. Personaly I would put money on a personality disorder.
FannyCann · 18/11/2021 08:16

That is true of nursing students also @Needmoresleep - it's so much effort to fail them in their placements and any criticism is weaponised.

Some time ago I had a spell working in insurance and there was a Dr there, doing the same lowly job as me - medical interviews for life/income protection insurance. He had got as far as being paediatric registrar and dropped out because of the pressure. But we were all amazed how he got that far. He had more time off sick than anyone I've ever known (that didn't have a recognisable serious illness), claimed his migraines were a disability, management had planned to lose him before his probationary period was up but in the end didn't dare challenge him. He was difficult let's just say.
Oh and one weekend when he had left early on Friday due to a crippling migraine that lasted all weekend he somehow managed to take part in the local Pride march as seen on TV. Hmm

ChampagneCommunist · 18/11/2021 08:14

Sorry to be dim, but what is the golf reference?

Needmoresleep · 18/11/2021 08:02

Sort of why I think there should be some sort of fitness to practice psych exam. If there are underlying problems, and they remain unacknowledged/untreated, this pattern of behaviour is likely to continue.

I was talking to a consultant recently who suggested that it is now very hard to kick unsuitable students, those with inappropriate behaviour or work habits eg poor time keeping and attendance, out as if they try, the lawyers are brought in and it becomes expensive and time consuming. However poor students, almost inevitably become poor junior doctors, and with work pressure and exam pressure and patient contact that it where any failings really start to bite.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 18/11/2021 07:41

@Rainbowshit

Imagine spending all that time and money to become a doctor and just torpedoing it like this. What is he thinking?
I really don’t think some of them do think though.

One of Stonewall’s defence team, in Allison Bailey’s case against them, has been known to tweet Allison about GC v trans. And also to make comments about ‘black women, gay women, trans women’ which show exactly what they think of black lesbians.

Then there’s the fox killer. There’s a definite theme here.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/11/2021 07:31

Thank you for so many insightful posts. So now we wait to see if the to be determined allegations are found and proved. I do hope so. Sadly if it were the case, there would be one less doctor in the country. But it would send a big message to men that women are not toys and property.

CovidCorvid · 18/11/2021 06:17

@Terfasaurus

The lady at the tribunal today is doing a brilliant job & public service typing up the proceedings from her notes late at night.

twitter.com/selfcommit2othe/status/1461104605698400265?s=21

I wanted to I could have selected a person & sent it them. My conversation with c was not my intention to disclose.
GMC - do you accept when referencing golf..
Chair - stopped meeting & put into private session.

It’s a travesty. We all know what is being referred to and yet it’s going private to spare an abusive person’s blushes.

Well the GMC certainly seem to going for some robust questioning reading that Twitter transcript. Also sounds like they know the score about the golf quotes.
sashh · 18/11/2021 04:58

@AlfonsoTheUnrepentant

I wonder what Harrop's barrister is thinking right now.
Thank fuck I'm being paid £500 an hour
FindTheTruth · 18/11/2021 02:09

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BreadInCaptivity · 18/11/2021 01:29

Apologies for they typos..,

BreadInCaptivity · 18/11/2021 01:23

It's not that, I don't think. He was desperate to have a high media profile. He tried to be spokesperson for a couple of things before he hit on transactivism.

I agree.

The first time I came across Harrop was in the local TV news (see below) where I lived at that time.

I'm remember a lot of people being very upset by this interview.

I'm going to be careful what I write so bear with me.

Allegedly, at the time of this interview he was a junior doctor and a locum who had only recently in post.

I think the former can be proven but I have no evidence for the latter.

The interview was allegedly conducted without managerial consent.

There were apparently/allegedly a number of HCP's at the hospital who were upset/incensed by this interview because whilst it did highlight budgetary issues re: winter provision of patient care and stress on the NHS (remember this is pre- covid) it suggested (depending on your interpretation of the interview) that healthcare at Scarborough Hospital was sub-standard and that might mean people who were ill might not seek the help they needed and had also overstated the level of "crisis".

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/11/2021 00:53

@2Rebecca

I don't understand someone entering medicine and deciding this is the most important health problem in the UK and what they want to dedicate themselves to.
It's not that, I don't think. He was desperate to have a high media profile. He tried to be spokesperson for a couple of things before he hit on transactivism.

It all played out on Twitter. Adrian wants to be important.

BreadInCaptivity · 18/11/2021 00:37

@2Rebecca

I don't understand someone entering medicine and deciding this is the most important health problem in the UK and what they want to dedicate themselves to.

It's cult like behaviour. Aldous Huxley:

“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.”

2Rebecca · 18/11/2021 00:12

I don't understand someone entering medicine and deciding this is the most important health problem in the UK and what they want to dedicate themselves to.

Rainbowshit · 17/11/2021 23:41

Imagine spending all that time and money to become a doctor and just torpedoing it like this. What is he thinking?

BreadInCaptivity · 17/11/2021 23:21

@Motorina

Agreed - it's really hard to take thorough notes when cross examination is moving at a pace, and she's doing superbly well.
Indeed much 👏👏👏👏👏
Motorina · 17/11/2021 23:19

Agreed - it's really hard to take thorough notes when cross examination is moving at a pace, and she's doing superbly well.

BreadInCaptivity · 17/11/2021 23:16

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

(Don't forget the two written warnings which seem to have been largely ignored.) I would not want someone like that back without reassurance and without confidence that they intended to change their behaviour. The article suggest that a slap on the wrist might simply give confidence that earlier behaviours were acceptable.

This is his advice to a fellow colleague after one or both of those warnings.

I've zero idea how reliable the source is, but a regular GC poster on Twitter has stated they know the GMC are aware of that tweet.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 17/11/2021 23:10

We are about to run out of space on the thread. @ItsAllGoingToBeFine - do you want to start a thread 2?

Cos, I think we're gonna need a bigger boat.

Terfasaurus · 17/11/2021 23:06

The lady at the tribunal today is doing a brilliant job & public service typing up the proceedings from her notes late at night.

twitter.com/selfcommit2othe/status/1461104605698400265?s=21

I wanted to I could have selected a person & sent it them. My conversation with c was not my intention to disclose.
GMC - do you accept when referencing golf..
Chair - stopped meeting & put into private session.

It’s a travesty. We all know what is being referred to and yet it’s going private to spare an abusive person’s blushes.

BeReet · 17/11/2021 23:00

This is absolutely fascinating reading, I cannot quite believe the VICE article tbh, sheer stupidity. On top of pre- existing appalling behaviour!